Comments on: Markup Missive http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/ Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it's largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff Fri, 10 May 2013 11:50:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Simple Round Corners in CSS | Ajaxonomy http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-305565 Simple Round Corners in CSS | Ajaxonomy Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:45:14 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-305565 [...] the corners but if you wanted to reduce mark up you could use a nested “b” element as suggested by Eric Meyer (although its use for background images is not likely to be very semantic). Using a nested b [...]

]]> By: Simple Round Corners in CSS (revisited) http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-305087 Simple Round Corners in CSS (revisited) Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:28:09 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-305087 [...] the corners but if you wanted to reduce mark up you could use a nested “b” element as suggested by Eric Meyer (although its use for background images is not likely to be very semantic). Using a nested b [...]

]]> By: robert http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-40629 robert Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:15:05 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-40629 hi my name is robert. i am web designer. now i am facing with some problems in css while working on xhtml pages. it’s about the standards.
how we can reduce use of classes, ids and div tags if the site is filling with small icons headers text blocks and samll images dropdown lists. i need some examples in which default element tags are extensively used. there by we can reduce div tags and classes inside the html pages

regards

crs robert

]]> By: uwMike » Archive » CSS Rulers http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-39288 uwMike » Archive » CSS Rulers Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:22:25 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-39288 [...] I’ve used the <b> tag simply because it’s shorter and tighter than inserting spans. Since the bold-tag has been de-commissioned in favour of strong, why not take advantage of it as an inexpensive styling hook? [...]

]]> By: The Semantics of <small> | Unfortunately Paul http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-38386 The Semantics of <small> | Unfortunately Paul Sun, 02 Jul 2006 14:37:04 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-38386 [...] Markup Missive [...]

]]> By: Is it ok to use span? at Advanced CSS Design Resources - last-child.com http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-32820 Is it ok to use span? at Advanced CSS Design Resources - last-child.com Mon, 22 May 2006 20:04:31 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-32820 [...] If the content is not more important than the text around it, a span is a better choice. Eric Meyers prefers to use the non-semantic <b> tag, which adds style but no [...]

]]> By: CSS Guru Explains A<b>use - Lachy’s Log http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-25871 CSS Guru Explains A<b>use - Lachy’s Log Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:54:52 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-25871 [...] he mentioned the use of a <b> element within his markup. He has finally written his reasons for doing so.

In Eri [...]

]]> By: trojjer http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6266 trojjer Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:29:28 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6266 And in a final end to my rambles, folks, let me just clarify in yet another off-topic post, that I was referring to the presence of so-called “parentheses” within a string literal… Anyway.

]]> By: trojjer http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6265 trojjer Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:26:21 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6265 Damn, my late night/early morning grammatical logic sense is considerably more sluggish than during the day… Luckily, there is no validator or parser of any kind that would scold me for not closing a bracket (or “parenthesis”, if you want to get all American and pseudo-technical in contrary to my under-respected British dialogue :P). Ah well. I guess I should probably train myself to cut down on my usage of them, anyway – well, definitely the amount of content I wrap inside the things…

]]> By: trojjer http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6264 trojjer Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:21:02 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6264 Oh, wait, nevermind, I guess I forgot that, like you said, problems would arise if you did that with the heading tags – I mean, they wouldn’t have linefeeds separating them, for one thing! You’re right in that an element, of course, can’t have a split personality… I don’t know why I overlooked that there (except that I actually knew about it; I just seemed to think for a moment that, “Hmm, if you just limit it to the H# elements of that class, it’ll be okay…” — when it wouldn’t, alas, be “okay” in any circumstance.

]]> By: trojjer http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6263 trojjer Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:16:46 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-6263 Hang on here, you mentioned the possibility of just setting the heading elements to inline, which would save you the hassle. I don’t see what could possibly stop you from just using that in conjunction with the metadata class you reserved for that occasion? If you limit it to that class of headings, wouldn’t it cut out the need for any ambiguous inline child elements whatsoever, as well as reduce the number of required CSS rules?

]]> By: Lachy’s Log » Blog Archive » Semantics of <span> http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-5127 Lachy’s Log » Blog Archive » Semantics of <span> Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:04:42 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-5127 [...] se of these elements, where span would ordinarily do the trick. Eric Meyer has previously explained his use of the b element as a presentational [...]

]]> By: Chris Hunt http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-762 Chris Hunt Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:19:56 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-762 “I feel it’s wrong to use B, because unstyled, it will appear bold on the page.”

Look at the context – it’s inside a >h5< . That’s going to render bold when unstyled anyway (which is why, I suspect, Eric chose to use the tag in the first place).

I think it’s OK to do this kind of thing on your blog – you’re the only one who has to manage the code. In professional sites, where there are (potentially) multiple people involved, I’d use something more transparent.

]]> By: Legends of the Sun Pig http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-740 Legends of the Sun Pig Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:41:50 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-740 I love <b>s
It’s a gaming/semantic markup crossover pun. Trust me, it’s funny.

]]> By: Andrei Herasimchuk http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-733 Andrei Herasimchuk Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:33:40 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/08/23/markup-missive/#comment-733 “The post was one of sympathy, not admonishment, although it now seems that wasn’t clear.”

Sorry… I forgot the smiley on my comment… I was sort of ribbing you back, in sympathy as well. I use this semantic trick all the time, with b and em tags mostly. For precisely the same reason.

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