<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Sliding Faux Columns</title>
	<atom:link href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/</link>
	<description>Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it&#039;s largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:27:46 -0400</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Joomla 1.0 Tutorial &#8211; Make Custom Template &#171; Blakesabbath&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-490569</link>
		<dc:creator>Joomla 1.0 Tutorial &#8211; Make Custom Template &#171; Blakesabbath&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-490569</guid>
		<description>[...] Notice that the side columns do not reach their footer. This is because they only extend as far as their content, where the space is red on the left and white on the right, they don&#8217;t exist. If we have a template that has a white background for all three columns, this is no problem. We will use this approach and will have boxes round the modules. If equal height columns are desired that are colored, or have boxes, you must use a background image that will tile vertically. This technique is called &#8220;Faux Columns&#8221; and is described by Douglas Bowman and Eric Meyer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Notice that the side columns do not reach their footer. This is because they only extend as far as their content, where the space is red on the left and white on the right, they don&#8217;t exist. If we have a template that has a white background for all three columns, this is no problem. We will use this approach and will have boxes round the modules. If equal height columns are desired that are colored, or have boxes, you must use a background image that will tile vertically. This technique is called &#8220;Faux Columns&#8221; and is described by Douglas Bowman and Eric Meyer. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Выравнивание высоты контейнеров при верстке DIVами &#124; Вебмастеру посвящается...</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-362457</link>
		<dc:creator>Выравнивание высоты контейнеров при верстке DIVами &#124; Вебмастеру посвящается...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-362457</guid>
		<description>[...] Данный вариант хорошо подходит для страниц с фиксированной шириной. Его также его можно использовать и для «резиновой» верстки с применением метода адаптированного Дугласом Бауменом и Эриком Майером Sliding Faux Columns. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Данный вариант хорошо подходит для страниц с фиксированной шириной. Его также его можно использовать и для «резиновой» верстки с применением метода адаптированного Дугласом Бауменом и Эриком Майером Sliding Faux Columns. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Keeping your Balance with ECMAScript - The Web Standards Project</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-19902</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeping your Balance with ECMAScript - The Web Standards Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-19902</guid>
		<description>[...] wsers need a bit of help doing the right thing. Is Paul&#8217;s method any better than the  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wsers need a bit of help doing the right thing. Is Paul&#8217;s method any better than the  [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: vicentjorda.com &#187; Galería de  Diseños (Layout Gala)</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-15773</link>
		<dc:creator>vicentjorda.com &#187; Galería de  Diseños (Layout Gala)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-15773</guid>
		<description>[...] columns [EN]. 	Estos diseños se pueden complementar con las técnicas Faux Columns [EN] y Sliding Faux Columns [EN] que sirven para poder aplicar un color de rellen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] columns [EN]. 	Estos diseños se pueden complementar con las técnicas Faux Columns [EN] y Sliding Faux Columns [EN] que sirven para poder aplicar un color de rellen [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Some links for light reading (13/9/04)</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-11633</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Some links for light reading (13/9/04)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-11633</guid>
		<description>[...] ss check 	W3C uses presentational markup - oh the horror 	The perversion of Web Standards 	Sliding Faux Columns  			 				Posted in light reading			 		 		     	 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ss check 	W3C uses presentational markup &#8211; oh the horror 	The perversion of Web Standards 	Sliding Faux Columns<br />
 				Posted in light reading			</p>
<p>   	 [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: molly.com &#187; faux tables?</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>molly.com &#187; faux tables?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-793</guid>
		<description>[...] le, he&#8217;s redesigned again! You can read Eric&#8217;s take on it in his piece, &#8220;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot;&gt;Sliding Faux Columns&lt;/a&gt;.&#8221; 	After reading both articles, I&#8217;m far l [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] le, he&#8217;s redesigned again! You can read Eric&#8217;s take on it in his piece, &#8220;<a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/">Sliding Faux Columns</a>.&#8221; 	After reading both articles, I&#8217;m far l [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CSS-Technik-News</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>CSS-Technik-News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-794</guid>
		<description>[...] ing Faux Columns   Angeregt durch Doug von Stopdesign hat Eric Mayer etwas gebastelt: in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot; &gt;Sliding Faux Columns&lt;/a&gt; beschreibt er in Analogie zu Faux Columns eine M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ing Faux Columns</p>
<p>  Angeregt durch Doug von Stopdesign hat Eric Mayer etwas gebastelt: in <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/" >Sliding Faux Columns</a> beschreibt er in Analogie zu Faux Columns eine M</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Randomize - In Search of Tableless HTML</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Randomize - In Search of Tableless HTML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-795</guid>
		<description>[...] 6d1ed55f2f&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;     In Search of Tableless HTML     Seriously, if you are going through &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot;&gt;lengths like these&lt;/a&gt; to avoid using the (non-deprecated, I might add) (X)HTM [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 6d1ed55f2f&#8221;><br />
     In Search of Tableless HTML<br />
     Seriously, if you are going through <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/">lengths like these</a> to avoid using the (non-deprecated, I might add) (X)HTM [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: a-css &#187; Sliding Faux Columns</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>a-css &#187; Sliding Faux Columns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-800</guid>
		<description>[...] nager System) WordPress   	  --&gt; 	 				 			 				Sliding Faux Columns			 			07/09/04				&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot; hreflang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;Eric Meyer parla&lt;/a&gt;d&#8217;una combinaci</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nager System) WordPress   	  &#8211;> 	</p>
<p> 				Sliding Faux Columns<br />
 			07/09/04				<a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/" hreflang="en">Eric Meyer parla</a>d&#8217;una combinaci</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Coulisses d&#8217;un redesign (3):  sIFR, IE7, navigation et problèmes CSS (Almaren)</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>Coulisses d&#8217;un redesign (3):  sIFR, IE7, navigation et problèmes CSS (Almaren)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-1362</guid>
		<description>[...] echnique de mise en page, telle les Faux Columns de Dan Cederholm, ou peut-être même les &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot;&gt;Sliding Faux Columns&lt;/a&gt; suggérés par Eric Meyer. Pour les plus curieux d&amp;#8 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] echnique de mise en page, telle les Faux Columns de Dan Cederholm, ou peut-être même les <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/">Sliding Faux Columns</a> suggérés par Eric Meyer. Pour les plus curieux d&#8 [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Naked Green &#187; Design of SimpleBits</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-2633</link>
		<dc:creator>The Naked Green &#187; Design of SimpleBits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comment-2633</guid>
		<description>[...] d sidebar consistent.  I&#8217;ve used the &#8220;Sliding Faux Columns&#8221; approach (1, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/&quot; title=&quot;Sliding Faux Columns by Eric Meyer&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, 3) in achieving a flexible, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] d sidebar consistent.  I&#8217;ve used the &#8220;Sliding Faux Columns&#8221; approach (1, <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/" title="Sliding Faux Columns by Eric Meyer">2</a>, 3) in achieving a flexible, [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
        "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head profile="http://gmpg.org/xfn/1">
<title>meyerweb.com</title>
<link rel="openid.server" href="http://www.myopenid.com/server">
<link rel="openid.delegate" href="http://emeyer.myopenid.com/">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico"><link rel="home" href="http://meyerweb.com/" title="Home" ><link rel="stylesheet" href="http://meyerweb.com/ui/meyerweb.css" type="text/css" media="screen, projection"><link rel="stylesheet" href="http://meyerweb.com/ui/theme.css" type="text/css" media="screen, projection" id="themeLink"><link rel="stylesheet" href="http://meyerweb.com/ui/print.css" type="text/css" media="print"><script src="http://meyerweb.com/ui/addresses.js" type="text/javascript"></script><link rel="stylesheet" href="/ui/wordpress.css" type="text/css" media="screen">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/ui/tfe.css" type="text/css" media="screen">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/ui/home.css" type="text/css" media="screen">
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Thoughts From Eric" href="/eric/thoughts/rss2/full" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Thoughts From Eric (only technical posts)" href="/eric/thoughts/category/tech/rss2/full" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Thoughts From Eric (only personal posts)" href="/eric/thoughts/category/personal/rss2/full" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Distractions" href="/eric/thoughts/recent-links/rss2" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Excuse of the Day" href="/feeds/excuse/rss20.xml" />
</head>
<body id="www-meyerweb-com" class="hpg">

<div id="sitemast"><h1><a href="/"><span>meyerweb</span>.com</a></h1></div><div id="search"><h4>Exploration</h4><!-- SiteSearch Google --><form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/custom" target="_top"><div><input type="hidden" name="domains" value="meyerweb.com"></input><label for="sbb" style="display: none">Submit search form</label><input type="submit" name="sa" value="Google Search" id="sbb"></input><label for="sbi" style="display: none">Enter your search terms</label><input type="text" name="q" size="31" maxlength="255" value="" id="sbi"></input><p><input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="meyerweb.com" checked id="ss1"></input><label for="ss1" title="Search meyerweb.com">meyerweb.com</label><input type="radio" name="sitesearch" value="" id="ss0"></input><label for="ss0" title="Search the Web">Web</label></p><input type="hidden" name="client" value="pub-3772084027748653"></input><input type="hidden" name="forid" value="1"></input><input type="hidden" name="ie" value="ISO-8859-1"></input><input type="hidden" name="oe" value="ISO-8859-1"></input><input type="hidden" name="safe" value="active"></input><input type="hidden" name="cof" value="GALT:#008000;GL:1;DIV:#336699;VLC:663399;AH:center;BGC:FFFFFF;LBGC:336699;ALC:0000FF;LC:0000FF;T:000000;GFNT:0000FF;GIMP:0000FF;FORID:1"></input><input type="hidden" name="hl" value="en"></input></div></form><!-- SiteSearch Google --><!-- <form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/custom"><div><input type="submit" name="sa" value="Search"><input type="text" name="q" size="20" maxlength="255" value=""><input type="hidden" name="sitesearch" value="meyerweb.com"></div></form><small><a href="http://www.google.com/search">Powered by Google</a></small> --></div><div id="main"><div class="skipper">Skip to: <a href="#extra">site navigation/presentation</a></div><div class="skipper">Skip to: <a href="#thoughts">Thoughts From Eric</a></div>
<div id="thoughts">


<div class="entry">
<h3><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Sliding Faux Columns">Sliding Faux Columns</a></h3>
<ul class="meta">
<li class="date">Fri 3 Sep 2004</li>
<li class="time">2209</li>
<li class="cat"><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/category/tech/css/" title="View all posts in CSS" rel="category tag">CSS</a></li>
<li class="cmt"><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/#comments">11 responses</a></li>
<li>Posting off</li><li></li></ul>

<div class="text">
<p>
A while back, in the summary to his article &#8220;<a href="http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/throwing_tables/" title="Throwing Tables Out the Window">Throwing Tables Out The Window</a>&#8220;, <a href="http://www.stopdesign.com/" title="stopdesign" rel="frind colleague met">Doug</a> asserted:
</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/throwing_tables/">
There&#8217;s no longer any reason to use tables for layout, nor is there reason to maintain multiple versions of a site solely for different desktop browsers. Throw the tables out first. Trust us, they&#8217;re not needed anymore.
</blockquote>
<p>
At the time, I remember thinking that I agreed with him for about 90% of design cases, but that there was that nagging 10% that still seemed to require tables.  That would be the cases where elements have to have the same visual height, regardless of their content height, <strong>and</strong> the layout is not fixed-width.  (Fixed-width cases can be easily handled using <a href="http://www.simplebits.com/" rel="colleague met">Dan Cederholm</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/">Faux Columns</a>.)  The classic example is a liquid two-column layout containing a sidebar and main-content column, where the sidebar has a different background than the main content, and that background has to be as tall as the main content&mdash;and, conversely, the main content&#8217;s background has to be as tall as the sidebar&#8217;s if the sidebar is taller.  There are ways to get this to happen using non-table markup, but it usually involves at least as much markup as using a simple table, and is less stable in older (NN4-era) browsers.  If  you go to three columns, all of which must match each other&#8217;s heights, then things get really wacky.
</p>
<p>
So I eventually got around to asking Doug about those cases, and it turned out he&#8217;d been mulling an idea similar to one I&#8217;d had but never pursued.  We tossed messages back and forth, hammering away at his idea, and eventually christened it &#8216;Sliding Faux Columns&#8217;.  Doug writes about this technique his recent post, <a href="http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/09/03/liquid-bleach.html" title="Liquid Bleach">Liquid Bleach</a>.  Here&#8217;s the basic idea in a nutshell, quoted from Doug&#8217;s post:
</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/09/03/liquid-bleach.html">
The trick is to create an ultra-wide background image (or two images for 3-column layouts, thus the Sliding-Doors-nature of the technique). The image is partially opaque, and partially transparent. It gets tiled vertically inside the parent container, just like Dan&#8217;s Faux Columns technique. The opaque portion of the image should match percentages of the column it helps create, so that it can be positioned with an identical background-position value. This allows the transition from opaque to transparent to become the axis point for the background&#8217;s position.
</blockquote>
<p>
Amazingly, the technique appears to work in IE5/Win and later.  IE5/Mac has some problems, and while the problems were vaguely familiar ones we never did manage to figure out how to work around them.  More recent browsers, like Safari and the Gecko family, seem to handle the technique just fine.
</p>
<p>
While we were working on the concept, I threw together <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/sliding-faux/demo.html">some test cases</a>.  They aren&#8217;t up to the usual <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/">css/edge</a> standards, which is why you won&#8217;t find a link on the main css/edge page.  I&#8217;m putting them out in public because they might be interesting to anyone who wants to play with a boiled-down version of the technique.  Note that the super-wide images are only needed if you&#8217;re trying to fill a color or pattern into the background of the column(s).  If you just need a vertical separator, then an image as wide as the separator (say, one pixel) is all you need.  The CSS works out to be exactly the same in either case.  It&#8217;s just a difference of a 3000-pixel-wide background image versus a one- or two-pixel-wide image.
</p>
<p>
The markup isn&#8217;t exactly pretty: it requires a couple of wrapper <code>div</code>s just to set up the column backgrounds/separators.  This isn&#8217;t more markup-heavy than a table constructed to serve the same layout goals, but then it isn&#8217;t a whole lot less heavy either.  Personally, I remain agnostic on which is a better approach.  Bending a table to layout purposes isn&#8217;t clean, but to my eye, neither is constructing a couple of 3000-pixel background images just to get the effect a simple three-cell table can allow.  You&#8217;re hacking your way around limitations in CSS either way you go.
</p>
<p>
This brings me to a question I often encounter: &#8220;Why doesn&#8217;t CSS have a grid layout capability?&#8221;  It does: styled tables.  That&#8217;s pretty much it, but it&#8217;s there.  Until CSS gets grid-layout functionality that isn&#8217;t table-centric&mdash;the only &#8220;pure CSS&#8221; grid layout approach being to apply table-related <code>display</code> values to non-table elements, and boy, does <em>that</em> ever make a lot of sense&mdash;and that functionality is widely supported, then tables are the best grid-based layout system available in the (X)HTML+CSS space.
</p>
<p>
Before the purists warm up their flamethrowers and the CSS haters start to crow that I&#8217;ve done a Bush-style flip-flop, note that I said it&#8217;s the only grid layout system available.  The designs that absolutely require such a system are that 10% I was talking about earlier.  Most other designs don&#8217;t need a grid system, and so don&#8217;t need tables for layout.  The current <a href="http://www.wired.com/">Wired News</a> design is one, the new <a href="http://www.chevrolet.com/">Chevrolet site</a> is another, and meyerweb is still a third.
</p>
<p>
As Doug has proven with Sliding Faux Columns, it&#8217;s possible to cover a good portion of those sites that would normally need a grid system without table markup.  That&#8217;s certainly interesting, and in one sense it&#8217;s quite useful in that it details the hoops through which one has to jump to make this sort of thing happen with CSS.  When you get right down to it, though, I&#8217;m feeling very ambivalent about which I&#8217;d prefer to use: Sliding Faux Columns or a simple table to set up the columns.  I suspect probably the latter, in my personal case.  The great thing is that now we have a choice for those kinds of designs.
</p>
<p>
For the small percentage of designs that really do require a full grid system, though&mdash;and I really have seen only a few in all my years of surfing the Web&mdash;tables are your only realistic choice.  I wish CSS had addressed that point in years past, so that we&#8217;d have some hope of support at present.  It&#8217;s always struck me as one of the biggest missed opportunities of CSS.
</p></div>

</div>

</div>
<p style="font-size: 90%; text-align: right; margin-top: 0.5em; padding-top: 0;">(If you care, there's even an <a href="/eric/thoughts/page/2/">archive of previous thoughts</a>...)</p>

</div><div id="extra"><div class="panel" id="archipelago"><h4>Identity Archipelago</h4><ul><li><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/meyerweb/" rel="me">Flickr</a></li><li><a href="http://twitter.com/meyerweb/" rel="me">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="http://dopplr.com/traveller/meyerweb">Dopplr</a></li><li><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/meyerweb" rel="me">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="http://technorati.com/profile/emeyer" rel="me">Technorati</a></li></ul></div><div class="panel" id="pointers"><h4>Projects Elsewhere</h4><ul><li><a href="http://aneventapart.com/">An Event Apart</a></li><li><a href="http://complexspiral.com/">Complex Spiral Consulting</a></li><li><a href="http://www.webassist.com/go/css/emeyer/">CSS Sculptor</a></li><li><a href="http://css-discuss.org/">css-discuss</a></li><li><a href="http://microformats.org/">Microformats</a></li><li><a href="http://s5project.org/">S5</a></li></ul></div><div class="panel" id="tour"><ul><li><a href="http://fray.com/issue3/"><img src="http://fray.com/images/i3c.gif" alt="Fray Contributor (Issue 3: Sex &amp; Death)" /></a></li><!-- <li><a href="http://www.webassist.com/go/css/emeyer/"><img src="/pix/CS_ad_180x109.jpg" alt="CSS Sculptor for Dreamweaver" style="max-width: 100%;" /></a></li> --></ul></div><div class="panel">
<h4>Recently Tweeted</h4>
<p class="more"><a href="http://twitter.com/meyerweb">see more</a></p>
<p>I think the fortune in my Chinese fortune cookie was written by Grover Norquist.  I bet he's getting paid for those off the books. <small>&#8211;tweeted 13 hours, 47 minutes ago</small></p>
</div><div id="sideblog" class="panel">
<h4>Distractions</h4>
<p class="more">
<a href="/eric/thoughts/recent-links/">archive</a>
</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://tweetagewasteland.com/2010/03/my-head-is-in-the-cloud/" title="March 18 | &#8220;I sense that my addiction to the realtime stream is only making room for the consumption of a faster stream.&#8221;">My Head is in the Cloud</a> <small>[via <a href="http://daringfireball.net/">John</a>]</small></li>
<li><a href="http://8bitnyc.com/" title="March 17 | All of a sudden I want to establish a mission in Central Park and negotiate with the natives for gold and food.">8-Bit NYC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicqklGuB0&amp;feature=player_embedded" title="March 12 | Wry comment expressing my appreciation of the creative derivativeness of this video and its uncanny accuracy in mocking common tropes.">Academy Award Winning Movie Trailer</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU" title="March 9 | &#8220;Apple juice&#8230; for half price!&#8221;  More like twice PRICELESS.  (Note: If you&#8217;re at work, don your headphones.)">Happy in Paraguay</a> <small>[via <a href="http://unstoppablerobotninja.com/">Ethan</a>]</small></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5ubAOeOBk&amp;feature=player_embedded" title="February 10 | This is approximately the best thing ever.">U900 -Walk Don&#8217;t Run (Isogabamaware)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201002/sifr_default_css_hides_content_from_at_least_one_screen_reader/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A 456bereastreet %28456 Berea Street%29" title="February 8 | -9999px comes through again, but I really wish we were beyond that kind of thing.">sIFR default CSS hides content from at least one screen reader</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20100117064356428" title="February 8 | Storing this for future use.">Take a picture with the iSight camera when a folder is opened</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mingle2.com/blog/view/web-developer-mind" title="February 4 | Mostly valid.  (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)">The Mind of a Web Developer: An Illustrated Diagram</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/science_channel_refuses_to_dumb" title="January 28 | &#8220;Punkin Chunkin, for Christ&#8217;s sake&#8230; What more do you people want?&#8221;">Science Channel Refuses To Dumb Down Science Any Further</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/project-omnivore-declassified/" title="January 27 | Sounds like quite a feat.  But I wonder how we&#8217;d feel if Microsoft or Google announced the same kind of thing on their e-mail services.">MailChimp&#8217;s Project Omnivore: Declassified</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/25/carolyn-maloney/congresswoman-says-democratic-presidents-create-mo/" title="January 26 | &#8220;Obviously, luck matters a lot, but when there is a consistent pattern over more than 60 years, it starts to look like more than just luck.&#8221;">Congresswoman says Democratic presidents create more private-sector jobs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make.html" title="January 25 | Truth.">Taylor Mali: What teachers make</a></li>
<li><a href="http://notebook.johnmartz.com/how-websites-work?c=1" title="January 22 | At last, the truth is out and I can stop pretending:  beatific monkeys are what makes it all go.">How websites work</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="panel" id="advisory">
<div class="guarded">
<a href="http://blogadvisorysystem.com/"><img src="/pix/bas/guarded.png" alt="Blog Advisory System Alert Level: Guarded"></a>
</div>
</div>

<div class="panel" id="excuse">
<h4>The <a href="/feeds/excuse/">excuse of the day</a> is</h4>
<p>neutrino interactions</p>
</div>

<div class="panel" id="extras">
<h4>Extras</h4>
<ul>
<li><a href="/feeds/">Feeds</a> &#8226;</li>
<li><a href="/eric/faq.html">FAQ</a> &#8226;</li>
<li><a href="/family.html">Family</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

</div>

<div id="navigate">
<h4>Navigation</h4>
<ul id="navlinks">
<li id="archLink"><a href="/eric/thoughts/">Archives</a></li>
<li id="cssLink"><a href="/eric/css/">CSS</a></li>
<li id="toolsLink"><a href="/eric/tools/">Toolbox</a></li>
<li id="writeLink"><a href="/eric/writing.html">Writing</a></li>
<li id="speakLink"><a href="/eric/talks/">Speaking</a></li>
<li id="otherLink"><a href="/other/">Leftovers</a></li>
<li id="aboutsite"><a href="/ui/about.html">About this site</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

<div id="footer">
<p class="sosumi">All contents of this site, unless otherwise noted, are &copy;1995-2008 <strong>Eric A. and Kathryn S. Meyer</strong>.  All Rights Reserved.</p>
<p>"<a href="/eric/thoughts/">Thoughts From Eric</a>" is powered by the &uuml;bercool <a href="http://wordpress.org/">WordPress</a></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
