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		<title>By: nigel</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-39335</link>
		<dc:creator>nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just to say - thanks for posting this bug
i had the same problem with a bunch of checkboxes within divs
and only found the problem by randomly cutting bits from the css ;)
Does anyone at microsoft know about this I wonder?
cheers
nigel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to say &#8211; thanks for posting this bug<br />
i had the same problem with a bunch of checkboxes within divs<br />
and only found the problem by randomly cutting bits from the css ;)<br />
Does anyone at microsoft know about this I wonder?<br />
cheers<br />
nigel</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok - it was the use of &quot;Float: left;&quot; for both the UL &amp; LI. Apparently, the use of it for the entire UL and then the LI would cause an infinite loop to start as IE tried to align the elements. Removing it from the UL fixes it - but not vice-versa...

The reason it just showed up is it had something to do with the length of the &quot;values&quot; (link text) shown- hence when the values reached a certain length - it looped.

I don&#039;t have a clue why - this is just my &quot;quasi-educated guess&quot; - so MS or W3C would likely know more... If I can&#039;t control it - I find the workaround and live with it - everything else is a waste of brain chemicals...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; it was the use of &#8220;Float: left;&#8221; for both the UL &#038; LI. Apparently, the use of it for the entire UL and then the LI would cause an infinite loop to start as IE tried to align the elements. Removing it from the UL fixes it &#8211; but not vice-versa&#8230;</p>
<p>The reason it just showed up is it had something to do with the length of the &#8220;values&#8221; (link text) shown- hence when the values reached a certain length &#8211; it looped.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a clue why &#8211; this is just my &#8220;quasi-educated guess&#8221; &#8211; so MS or W3C would likely know more&#8230; If I can&#8217;t control it &#8211; I find the workaround and live with it &#8211; everything else is a waste of brain chemicals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,
I sent you an e-mail about 4pm today (9/22) that covers the fix for this issue.

I will leave it up to you, to decide, how to cover the changes that were/are required - for your &quot;regular visitors&quot; who are interested.

Thanks for the challenge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
I sent you an e-mail about 4pm today (9/22) that covers the fix for this issue.</p>
<p>I will leave it up to you, to decide, how to cover the changes that were/are required &#8211; for your &#8220;regular visitors&#8221; who are interested.</p>
<p>Thanks for the challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Ford</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original test case stalls IE and it becomes unresponsive. but my system doesn&#039;t go down. I can shut down IE 6. so it&#039;s not really a &#039;crash&#039; of XP... at least for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original test case stalls IE and it becomes unresponsive. but my system doesn&#8217;t go down. I can shut down IE 6. so it&#8217;s not really a &#8216;crash&#8217; of XP&#8230; at least for me.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Ford</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both Sowdens&#8217; and Campbells&#8217; testcase do not crash IE6@XP on my PC.
Seth&#039;s loaded too, and then reloaded and stalled IE 6.
I have XP SP2 and all updates installed on Win XP Pro.
Now I&#039;ll try the original test case.... can&#039;t resist]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Sowdens&#8217; and Campbells&#8217; testcase do not crash IE6@XP on my PC.<br />
Seth&#8217;s loaded too, and then reloaded and stalled IE 6.<br />
I have XP SP2 and all updates installed on Win XP Pro.<br />
Now I&#8217;ll try the original test case&#8230;. can&#8217;t resist</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Merkey</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Merkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IE6 and strict mode don&#039;t go together. It&#039;s the DOCTYPE here. The list of bizarre behaviors that IE6 displays in strict mode is criminally long.

Every time a co-worker has ignored my strong recommendation against strict mode in our IE shop, they have seriously regretted it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE6 and strict mode don&#8217;t go together. It&#8217;s the DOCTYPE here. The list of bizarre behaviors that IE6 displays in strict mode is criminally long.</p>
<p>Every time a co-worker has ignored my strong recommendation against strict mode in our IE shop, they have seriously regretted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hodel</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a test case that is window-width sensitive.  I can load the testcase just fine, but when I expand the window enough it crashes.  

I don&#039;t need to use a ul, a div with the proper margins in place of the ul will trigger the crash (along with a width and float for the wrapper).

In the situations where IE does not crash, the content of the &#039;list items&#039; is displayed twice, the second time below the wrapper div.

In a related win32 bug, while IE is hung, you can open up lots of Windows Task Managers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a test case that is window-width sensitive.  I can load the testcase just fine, but when I expand the window enough it crashes.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to use a ul, a div with the proper margins in place of the ul will trigger the crash (along with a width and float for the wrapper).</p>
<p>In the situations where IE does not crash, the content of the &#8216;list items&#8217; is displayed twice, the second time below the wrapper div.</p>
<p>In a related win32 bug, while IE is hung, you can open up lots of Windows Task Managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bern</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if this helps - change the line before the FREEZE line to padding: 0.25em 1% 0 0; and it no longer freezes on my system (Win2000)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this helps &#8211; change the line before the FREEZE line to padding: 0.25em 1% 0 0; and it no longer freezes on my system (Win2000)</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Burgin</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-950</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry.  Did you say it would fre]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry.  Did you say it would fre</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just checked, and I DO NOT have that KB867801 installed on my IE6/XP machine.

Neither &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-942&quot;&gt;Snowden&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-943&quot;&gt;Cambell&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; test cases freeze my browser.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-939&quot;&gt;My original test&lt;/a&gt; does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked, and I DO NOT have that KB867801 installed on my IE6/XP machine.</p>
<p>Neither <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-942">Snowden&#8217;s</a> or <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-943">Cambell&#8217;s</a> test cases freeze my browser.  <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-939">My original test</a> does.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rainey</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rainey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have tested the above test cases in all IE browsers since IE4. IE4, IE5, and IE5.5 do not crash. IE6 crashed, but only one of them.

What I mean by one of them is that I have two computers with IE6 on them. One that has all the available security patches installed and one that does not have any. The one that has all the security patches chashes horribly, the unpatched one opens all the test cases fine without crashing.

I then began applying patches one by one, starting with the earliest available patch. After applying each patch, I went to the test cases again and all worked fine. When I got to the latest patch, KB867801, the browser frose on the test cases.

As I cannot test this theory anymore, I am not certain this is the case. If anyone else would like to test this, please do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tested the above test cases in all IE browsers since IE4. IE4, IE5, and IE5.5 do not crash. IE6 crashed, but only one of them.</p>
<p>What I mean by one of them is that I have two computers with IE6 on them. One that has all the available security patches installed and one that does not have any. The one that has all the security patches chashes horribly, the unpatched one opens all the test cases fine without crashing.</p>
<p>I then began applying patches one by one, starting with the earliest available patch. After applying each patch, I went to the test cases again and all worked fine. When I got to the latest patch, KB867801, the browser frose on the test cases.</p>
<p>As I cannot test this theory anymore, I am not certain this is the case. If anyone else would like to test this, please do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbert Broersma</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbert Broersma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both Sowdens&#039; and Campbells&#039; testcase do &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; crash &lt;code&gt;IE6@XP&lt;/code&gt; on my PC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Sowdens&#8217; and Campbells&#8217; testcase do <strong>not</strong> crash <code>IE6@XP</code> on my PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the strangest bug I&#039;ve ever encountered.  Even with stylesheets disabled in IE, it still crashes.  I&#039;ll do some more experementing later when I have time, but for now, this is just another reason for users to drop IE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the strangest bug I&#8217;ve ever encountered.  Even with stylesheets disabled in IE, it still crashes.  I&#8217;ll do some more experementing later when I have time, but for now, this is just another reason for users to drop IE.</p>
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		<title>By: bla2kay » Internet Explorer mit Style Sheets killen</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>bla2kay » Internet Explorer mit Style Sheets killen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] zornigen Post �ber den Internet Explorer, hat Eric Meyer nun in einem weiteren Post einen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Testcase&lt;/a&gt; ver�ffentlicht, wie man den Internet Explorer 6 mit reinen, standardkonfo [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] zornigen Post �ber den Internet Explorer, hat Eric Meyer nun in einem weiteren Post einen <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/" rel="nofollow">Testcase</a> ver�ffentlicht, wie man den Internet Explorer 6 mit reinen, standardkonfo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Campbell</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/17/freezer-case/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~glc02/test/ie-freeze.html&quot;&gt;minimal test case&lt;/a&gt;. I added some comments based on my findings. Very strange indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a <a href="http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~glc02/test/ie-freeze.html">minimal test case</a>. I added some comments based on my findings. Very strange indeed.</p>
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