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		<title>By: rahim haji</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-39851</link>
		<dc:creator>rahim haji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi guys,

This is a great read indeed, i have had a go at implementing this. I have issues in Firefox v1.0 on xp, The menu seems to disappear to the right side. 

I am not sure what i am to do here really.... has anyone got a live link to the presentation so i can see the code and work ouw where i am going wrong. I have a presentation to give on tuesday at NCL, and would like to use this presentation technique.

All help is much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys,</p>
<p>This is a great read indeed, i have had a go at implementing this. I have issues in Firefox v1.0 on xp, The menu seems to disappear to the right side. </p>
<p>I am not sure what i am to do here really&#8230;. has anyone got a live link to the presentation so i can see the code and work ouw where i am going wrong. I have a presentation to give on tuesday at NCL, and would like to use this presentation technique.</p>
<p>All help is much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahaya Reegan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-5843</link>
		<dc:creator>Sahaya Reegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The code added below is used to make a button hide and appear and do the corresponding functionality using the div tag of html and javascript.



	
		Check &amp; Uncheck All
	
	
	var defaultValue=&#039;twos&#039;;
	var flag = false;
		function buttonClick(input){
			if(!flag){
				for(i=0;i


	
	
		
			
			
			
			
			
		
	

	


	

	


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The code added below is used to make a button hide and appear and do the corresponding functionality using the div tag of html and javascript.</p>
<p>		Check &amp; Uncheck All</p>
<p>	var defaultValue=&#8217;twos&#8217;;<br />
	var flag = false;<br />
		function buttonClick(input){<br />
			if(!flag){<br />
				for(i=0;i</p>
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		<title>By: [Burak.UGURLU]</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>[Burak.UGURLU]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent, very handy indeed. I have a problem in Firefox v1.0 Win, I can&#039;t seem to bring up the menu in the bottom right hand corner. It appears as a select menu, but I am unable to make a selection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, very handy indeed. I have a problem in Firefox v1.0 Win, I can&#8217;t seem to bring up the menu in the bottom right hand corner. It appears as a select menu, but I am unable to make a selection.</p>
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		<title>By: [Burak.UGURLU]</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>[Burak.UGURLU]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anyone else using Firefox with the piemenu plugin? When I right click and attempt to go to the second level of any pie menu the menu blows up to 4 or 5 times it&#8217;s normal size only when using the slideshow example.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vikingler.com&quot;&gt; vikingler.com &lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else using Firefox with the piemenu plugin? When I right click and attempt to go to the second level of any pie menu the menu blows up to 4 or 5 times it&#8217;s normal size only when using the slideshow example.<br />
<a href="http://www.vikingler.com"> vikingler.com </a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hense</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Hense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have made some 
&lt;a href=&quot;http:www.germanistik.fu-berlin.de/~hense/web/slideshow/&quot;&gt;new CSS-themes&lt;/a&gt; to help promoting your great XHTML Slideshow. Inlcude them, modify (and correct) them if you like (credits apreciated, anyway! :P).
All themes should be in this
&lt;a href=&quot;http:www.germanistik.fu-berlin.de/~hense/web/slideshow/themes.zip&quot;&gt;zipped file&lt;/a&gt;.


I tried to present them in a way that the Firefox and Opera stylesheet switcher shows them as available themes. Firefox sometimes makes some trouble while switching; you&#039;ll have to reload the page then. I thought the themes available for switching would inherit from your main theme, but they don&#039;t, while they seem to inherit some classes from each other. Weirdo!)
No Problems with Opera 7.11 at all!

How do I change the space between the first h2 and the following text in a normal slide? I didn&#039;t get it. The IEXplorer has some problems with the right space here.

And I noticed two small features which don&#039;t work: My cursor does not stay (or become) a pointer (like the CSS says) when hovering over the controls. And I can&#039;t jump back to slide 0 with the navigation form when I used the arrows (or mouse klicks or the keyboard) right before. I am using Firefox 0.9.3 and IExplorer 6 (yes, and Opera) on a WinXP machine.

Martin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made some<br />
<a href="http:www.germanistik.fu-berlin.de/~hense/web/slideshow/">new CSS-themes</a> to help promoting your great XHTML Slideshow. Inlcude them, modify (and correct) them if you like (credits apreciated, anyway! :P).<br />
All themes should be in this<br />
<a href="http:www.germanistik.fu-berlin.de/~hense/web/slideshow/themes.zip">zipped file</a>.</p>
<p>I tried to present them in a way that the Firefox and Opera stylesheet switcher shows them as available themes. Firefox sometimes makes some trouble while switching; you&#8217;ll have to reload the page then. I thought the themes available for switching would inherit from your main theme, but they don&#8217;t, while they seem to inherit some classes from each other. Weirdo!)<br />
No Problems with Opera 7.11 at all!</p>
<p>How do I change the space between the first h2 and the following text in a normal slide? I didn&#8217;t get it. The IEXplorer has some problems with the right space here.</p>
<p>And I noticed two small features which don&#8217;t work: My cursor does not stay (or become) a pointer (like the CSS says) when hovering over the controls. And I can&#8217;t jump back to slide 0 with the navigation form when I used the arrows (or mouse klicks or the keyboard) right before. I am using Firefox 0.9.3 and IExplorer 6 (yes, and Opera) on a WinXP machine.</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For portability reasons, it might be smart to actually include the javascript and CSS code INSIDE the XHTML document rather than referencing them.

That way you can send the slideshow as a single file to other people via eMail, rather than sending 6-7 files and trying to explain to non-web folks how these need to be saved in alsorts of sub-folders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For portability reasons, it might be smart to actually include the javascript and CSS code INSIDE the XHTML document rather than referencing them.</p>
<p>That way you can send the slideshow as a single file to other people via eMail, rather than sending 6-7 files and trying to explain to non-web folks how these need to be saved in alsorts of sub-folders.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen Gl</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1173</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen Gl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With additional JavaScript and maybe changes to the css it would be possible to scale the font-size according to screen-resolution (or more correctly viewport-size) automatically. Something like
&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;function changefont() {
   var size=window.innerWidth;
   if(size &gt;=1600)
     chf(42);
   else if(size&gt;=1200)
     chf(30);
   else if(size&gt;=800)
     chf(24);
   else
     chf(12);
}

function chf(fSize){
  if (document.getElementsByTagName) {
    var body = document.getElementsByTagName(&quot;body&quot;)[0];
    body.style.fontSize = fSize+&#039;px&#039;;
  }  
}&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;code&gt;changefont&lt;/code&gt; would be called in &lt;code&gt;startup()&lt;/code&gt;.

I have not experimented much with the value-pairs (viewport-/font-size), and the css would have to be adapted, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With additional JavaScript and maybe changes to the css it would be possible to scale the font-size according to screen-resolution (or more correctly viewport-size) automatically. Something like</p>
<pre><code>function changefont() {
   var size=window.innerWidth;
   if(size >=1600)
     chf(42);
   else if(size>=1200)
     chf(30);
   else if(size>=800)
     chf(24);
   else
     chf(12);
}

function chf(fSize){
  if (document.getElementsByTagName) {
    var body = document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0];
    body.style.fontSize = fSize+'px';
  }  
}</code></pre>
<p><code>changefont</code> would be called in <code>startup()</code>.</p>
<p>I have not experimented much with the value-pairs (viewport-/font-size), and the css would have to be adapted, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: exclipy</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>exclipy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the world coming to?  An article about web-standards-based solutions for presentations, with Opera as nothing more than a margin note?  You&#039;ve even got &lt;a href=&quot;http://webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2004_10.html#a000453&quot; title=&quot;WaSP: Standard Slideshow System&quot;&gt;WaSP&lt;/a&gt; harping on about it with seemingly no idea that it&#039;s been possible for the past four years with no need for anything more than pure CSS.  And what is this new solution that&#039;s going to kill the very proprietory and bad PowerPoint?  A soup of JavaScript!  Oh, the irony...

And I&#039;m not even going to mention the &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/community/dev/operashow/&quot;&gt;Opera Show Generator&lt;/a&gt;: an idiot-proof web application to make these presentations (complete with slide navigation panels and tacky animations, if you insist).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the world coming to?  An article about web-standards-based solutions for presentations, with Opera as nothing more than a margin note?  You&#8217;ve even got <a href="http://webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2004_10.html#a000453" title="WaSP: Standard Slideshow System">WaSP</a> harping on about it with seemingly no idea that it&#8217;s been possible for the past four years with no need for anything more than pure CSS.  And what is this new solution that&#8217;s going to kill the very proprietory and bad PowerPoint?  A soup of JavaScript!  Oh, the irony&#8230;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not even going to mention the <a href="http://my.opera.com/community/dev/operashow/">Opera Show Generator</a>: an idiot-proof web application to make these presentations (complete with slide navigation panels and tacky animations, if you insist).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Havard</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Havard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anyone else using Firefox with the piemenu plugin? When I right click and attempt to go to the second level of any pie menu the menu blows up to 4 or 5 times it&#039;s normal size only when using the slideshow example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else using Firefox with the piemenu plugin? When I right click and attempt to go to the second level of any pie menu the menu blows up to 4 or 5 times it&#8217;s normal size only when using the slideshow example.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen Gl</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen Gl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, further investigations on Quirksmode revealed a solution:
&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;var targ;
if (!e) var e = window.event;
if (e.target) targ = e.target;
else if (e.srcElement) targ = e.srcElement;
if (targ.nodeType == 3) // defeat Safari bug
targ = targ.parentNode;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
The problem with IE is that it uses the &lt;code&gt;srcElement&lt;/code&gt;-property to convey the same information as other browsers do with the &lt;code&gt;target&lt;/code&gt;-property of the event-object.
Adding this snipped before the first call to &lt;code&gt;isParentOrSelf&lt;/code&gt; should make it work in IE, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, further investigations on Quirksmode revealed a solution:</p>
<pre><code>var targ;
if (!e) var e = window.event;
if (e.target) targ = e.target;
else if (e.srcElement) targ = e.srcElement;
if (targ.nodeType == 3) // defeat Safari bug
targ = targ.parentNode;</code></pre>
<p>The problem with IE is that it uses the <code>srcElement</code>-property to convey the same information as other browsers do with the <code>target</code>-property of the event-object.<br />
Adding this snipped before the first call to <code>isParentOrSelf</code> should make it work in IE, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen Gl</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen Gl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_core.html&quot;&gt;Quirksmode&lt;/a&gt; indicates that &#039;all&#039; browsers support &lt;code&gt;parentNode&lt;/code&gt;. The problem must be with something else, therefore.
I&#039;d guess this is due to the problem with &lt;code&gt;target&lt;/code&gt; I mentioned in #26...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_core.html">Quirksmode</a> indicates that &#8216;all&#8217; browsers support <code>parentNode</code>. The problem must be with something else, therefore.<br />
I&#8217;d guess this is due to the problem with <code>target</code> I mentioned in #26&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: webmac</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>webmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To fix the broken selector in IE/Mac I used &quot;new Option()&quot;. Manipulating form elements with dom seems to be a problem for IE/Mac.

Old:
&lt;code&gt;	newopt.setAttribute(&#039;value&#039;,n);		list.appendChild(newopt).appendChild(opttext);&lt;/code&gt;

New:
&lt;code&gt;list.options[list.length] = new Option(n+&#039; : &#039;+otext,n,false,false);&lt;/code&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To fix the broken selector in IE/Mac I used &#8220;new Option()&#8221;. Manipulating form elements with dom seems to be a problem for IE/Mac.</p>
<p>Old:<br />
<code>	newopt.setAttribute('value',n);		list.appendChild(newopt).appendChild(opttext);</code></p>
<p>New:<br />
<code>list.options[list.length] = new Option(n+' : '+otext,n,false,false);</code></p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Luna</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Luna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont have the same problem as Luke (comment 25) does... i can select from the list, but maybe it is because I am posting late... what did find is that if you open up the menu and then take the mouse out without selcting anything, a gray block will remain there until you click somewhere else... this is not a critical bug, rather a &quot;look good&quot; one

Oh, im using Firefox 1.0 Win, by the way..

-jl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont have the same problem as Luke (comment 25) does&#8230; i can select from the list, but maybe it is because I am posting late&#8230; what did find is that if you open up the menu and then take the mouse out without selcting anything, a gray block will remain there until you click somewhere else&#8230; this is not a critical bug, rather a &#8220;look good&#8221; one</p>
<p>Oh, im using Firefox 1.0 Win, by the way..</p>
<p>-jl</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mountjoy</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mountjoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool beans.  A couple of things are odd on Safari on OS X 10.3.5.

I can push &quot;T&quot; to change styles (but it beeps when that occurs).
I can NOT push &quot;Z&quot; or &quot;X&quot;.  I CAN push &quot;Control Z&quot; and &quot;Control X&quot;, and that works, but &quot;Control T&quot; does not work!  The left and right arrow keys to do the job splendidly.

The menu on the bottom pops up as you say it will.  However, I would suggest supplying a user indication of some kind so that a user knows he can mouse over there for something interesting.

Good stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool beans.  A couple of things are odd on Safari on OS X 10.3.5.</p>
<p>I can push &#8220;T&#8221; to change styles (but it beeps when that occurs).<br />
I can NOT push &#8220;Z&#8221; or &#8220;X&#8221;.  I CAN push &#8220;Control Z&#8221; and &#8220;Control X&#8221;, and that works, but &#8220;Control T&#8221; does not work!  The left and right arrow keys to do the job splendidly.</p>
<p>The menu on the bottom pops up as you say it will.  However, I would suggest supplying a user indication of some kind so that a user knows he can mouse over there for something interesting.</p>
<p>Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/24/slide-show-beta/#comment-1079</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool, Steffen, it is indeed working in Firefox and Safari.  Not IE/Win, though.  I&#039;m wondering if it doesn&#039;t support parentNode.  I&#039;m also willing to accept that as a limitation in the browser, and not worry overmuch about fixing it.

I think this is just about ready to exit beta status.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, Steffen, it is indeed working in Firefox and Safari.  Not IE/Win, though.  I&#8217;m wondering if it doesn&#8217;t support parentNode.  I&#8217;m also willing to accept that as a limitation in the browser, and not worry overmuch about fixing it.</p>
<p>I think this is just about ready to exit beta status.</p>
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