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		<title>By: dieKrahe.com    &#187; Naughty Target</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-11083</link>
		<dc:creator>dieKrahe.com    &#187; Naughty Target</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  				Naughty Target Posted In: General BS  	 					Cruising Eric Meyers Blog, I noticed his latest post from about an hour ago. It seems Target is ge [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2619</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link no longer works.

But if you put &#039;anal massage&#039; in their search engine, it pops up 3 &#039;results&#039; boxes that are blank!  sounds like someone at target did some creative editing due to unwanted attention.]]></description>
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<p>But if you put &#8216;anal massage&#8217; in their search engine, it pops up 3 &#8216;results&#8217; boxes that are blank!  sounds like someone at target did some creative editing due to unwanted attention.</p>
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		<title>By: ajax</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>ajax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2004/12/1143.php&quot;&gt;dealing&lt;/a&gt; with another kind of product now. Hm... so to speak? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re <a href="http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2004/12/1143.php">dealing</a> with another kind of product now. Hm&#8230; so to speak? :)</p>
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		<title>By: James W</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator>James W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know you, Eric (but I know who you are from the DW forum), but you come across in your original post as every bit as self-righteous and intolerant as those of whom you speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know you, Eric (but I know who you are from the DW forum), but you come across in your original post as every bit as self-righteous and intolerant as those of whom you speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kjeldsen</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kjeldsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... and now neither is &quot;on stock&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and now neither is &#8220;on stock&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tiffany</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First anal massages. Now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/602-9560734-1498258?asin=0823916839&quot;&gt;marijuana&lt;/a&gt; is for sale too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First anal massages. Now <a href="http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/602-9560734-1498258?asin=0823916839">marijuana</a> is for sale too.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2264</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the laugh . . . and a great website. I *really* needed that laugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the laugh . . . and a great website. I *really* needed that laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurtis</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2162</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2004 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and that great &#039;skwunch&#039;ing sound, folks, is the sound of half of eric&#039;s regular readers getting their panties in a twist (really, that ... ummm ... massage video would do &lt;em&gt;wonders&lt;/em&gt; for all that tension), while the other half of us laugh our css off at them.

oops ... c for a ... happens to the most careful among us.

kurtis (laughing his ... okay, i&#039;m done with the puns ... off)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and that great &#8216;skwunch&#8217;ing sound, folks, is the sound of half of eric&#8217;s regular readers getting their panties in a twist (really, that &#8230; ummm &#8230; massage video would do <em>wonders</em> for all that tension), while the other half of us laugh our css off at them.</p>
<p>oops &#8230; c for a &#8230; happens to the most careful among us.</p>
<p>kurtis (laughing his &#8230; okay, i&#8217;m done with the puns &#8230; off)</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2158</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came to Eric&#039;s Blog for the CSS, I stayed for the other stuff.  Speaking from the UK, it&#039;s refreshing to hear a liberal voice from the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to Eric&#8217;s Blog for the CSS, I stayed for the other stuff.  Speaking from the UK, it&#8217;s refreshing to hear a liberal voice from the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Block Sheep</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2117</link>
		<dc:creator>Block Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://img58.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img58&amp;image=targetanalmassage8.png&quot;&gt;Another Screenshot&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2116</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, looks like they filtered it out, as predicted.  The data slip-up with Amazon makes it more understandable, but when I first became aware of the page, I didn&#039;t know that was the situation.  I figured it was some kind of test record created by an intern or programmer with a juvenile sense of humor, and that it had escaped into the wild, because security through obscurity is no security at all.  Kind of like the Netscape employee who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jluster.org/entry/ok-this-is-so-going-to-blow-up&quot;&gt;used an insulting filename for a picture of President Bush&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/interactive/main/0411/frameset.exclude.html&quot;&gt;got fired as a result&lt;/a&gt;.

Keith&#039;s right on target here (see, I &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; make bad jokes that don&#039;t involve sexuality!).  To get a sampling of the folks he&#039;s talking about, just &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=boycott&amp;getit=Go&amp;sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&amp;sp-advanced=1&amp;sp-p=all&amp;sp-w-control=1&amp;sp-w=alike&amp;sp-date-range=-1&amp;sp-x=any&amp;sp-c=100&amp;sp-m=1&amp;sp-s=0&quot;&gt;search snopes.com for &quot;boycott&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and get a heapin&#039; helping of boycott campaigns based on nothing, or practically nothing, or even an apparent willful disgregard for the truth, from both the &quot;restrictive&quot; and &quot;permissive&quot; wings of social activism.  As can be seen, it&#039;s taken a lot less than this to touch off yet another round of &quot;those who know what&#039;s best for us / must rise and save us from ourselves.&quot;

In all seriousness, the post wasn&#039;t meant to provoke any reaction except a few chuckles.  My derision toward the &quot;high-morals&quot; crowd would perhaps have been better phrased as the &quot;high-outrage&quot; crowd, the very folks Keith was talking about, but in this case either descriptor is apt.  And as I didn&#039;t see &quot;DVD&quot; on the Target page, it looked like they were offering... well, let&#039;s call it &quot;personal service&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, looks like they filtered it out, as predicted.  The data slip-up with Amazon makes it more understandable, but when I first became aware of the page, I didn&#8217;t know that was the situation.  I figured it was some kind of test record created by an intern or programmer with a juvenile sense of humor, and that it had escaped into the wild, because security through obscurity is no security at all.  Kind of like the Netscape employee who <a href="http://www.jluster.org/entry/ok-this-is-so-going-to-blow-up">used an insulting filename for a picture of President Bush</a>, and <a href="http://www.cnn.com/interactive/main/0411/frameset.exclude.html">got fired as a result</a>.</p>
<p>Keith&#8217;s right on target here (see, I <em>can</em> make bad jokes that don&#8217;t involve sexuality!).  To get a sampling of the folks he&#8217;s talking about, just <a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=boycott&#038;getit=Go&#038;sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&#038;sp-advanced=1&#038;sp-p=all&#038;sp-w-control=1&#038;sp-w=alike&#038;sp-date-range=-1&#038;sp-x=any&#038;sp-c=100&#038;sp-m=1&#038;sp-s=0">search snopes.com for &#8220;boycott&#8221;</a> and get a heapin&#8217; helping of boycott campaigns based on nothing, or practically nothing, or even an apparent willful disgregard for the truth, from both the &#8220;restrictive&#8221; and &#8220;permissive&#8221; wings of social activism.  As can be seen, it&#8217;s taken a lot less than this to touch off yet another round of &#8220;those who know what&#8217;s best for us / must rise and save us from ourselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>In all seriousness, the post wasn&#8217;t meant to provoke any reaction except a few chuckles.  My derision toward the &#8220;high-morals&#8221; crowd would perhaps have been better phrased as the &#8220;high-outrage&#8221; crowd, the very folks Keith was talking about, but in this case either descriptor is apt.  And as I didn&#8217;t see &#8220;DVD&#8221; on the Target page, it looked like they were offering&#8230; well, let&#8217;s call it &#8220;personal service&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Burgin</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2094</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Target is not promoting anything.  Their shopping cart is powered by Amazon.com, and this is one item that&#039;s on Amazon.com.  The fact is, that while Amazon has enough information to determine what this product is - and reviews of the product (which must be read, I&#039;m tellin&#039; ya, but only if you enjoy &quot;gutter humor&quot;) - Target does not.  So let&#039;s look at that.  

Only the words &quot;Anal Massage&quot; and &quot;DVD&quot; appear on Target&#039;s site.  In time, they will probably disappear - it will be filtered out of Target&#039;s shopping cart.  Just my guess.

And the truth of the matter is that Eric is correct about the &quot;High Morals Crowd&quot; if he&#039;s talking about the people I think he is.  There is a group of folks out there who have nothing better to do with their lives than display their high moral tone to the world at the expense of others.  I&#039;m talking about the people who live for a petty fight.

I&#039;m not talking about those who do what they think is right, and live by a certain code.  Those people I respect.  The people I&#039;m talking about are on both political sides and we all know who they are.

These folks look for something small like this to start a &quot;movement.&quot;  Nothing dangerous here, just two words.  But it&#039;s not inconcievable that one of these &quot;We&#039;re protecting you from you&quot; groups would latch onto this and make it into much more than it is.

Personally, I thought it was amusing that the people who run Target&#039;s end of the site missed it.  Further, I had to giggle at the idea that a company that is so obsessed with image that it is banning Salvation Army Santas because it give the impression of &quot;panhandling,&quot; let this one slip through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Target is not promoting anything.  Their shopping cart is powered by Amazon.com, and this is one item that&#8217;s on Amazon.com.  The fact is, that while Amazon has enough information to determine what this product is &#8211; and reviews of the product (which must be read, I&#8217;m tellin&#8217; ya, but only if you enjoy &#8220;gutter humor&#8221;) &#8211; Target does not.  So let&#8217;s look at that.  </p>
<p>Only the words &#8220;Anal Massage&#8221; and &#8220;DVD&#8221; appear on Target&#8217;s site.  In time, they will probably disappear &#8211; it will be filtered out of Target&#8217;s shopping cart.  Just my guess.</p>
<p>And the truth of the matter is that Eric is correct about the &#8220;High Morals Crowd&#8221; if he&#8217;s talking about the people I think he is.  There is a group of folks out there who have nothing better to do with their lives than display their high moral tone to the world at the expense of others.  I&#8217;m talking about the people who live for a petty fight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about those who do what they think is right, and live by a certain code.  Those people I respect.  The people I&#8217;m talking about are on both political sides and we all know who they are.</p>
<p>These folks look for something small like this to start a &#8220;movement.&#8221;  Nothing dangerous here, just two words.  But it&#8217;s not inconcievable that one of these &#8220;We&#8217;re protecting you from you&#8221; groups would latch onto this and make it into much more than it is.</p>
<p>Personally, I thought it was amusing that the people who run Target&#8217;s end of the site missed it.  Further, I had to giggle at the idea that a company that is so obsessed with image that it is banning Salvation Army Santas because it give the impression of &#8220;panhandling,&#8221; let this one slip through.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t want this site less personal. I like the real side of blogs and that&#039;s why I read here in addition to reading books or other tech sites. We get to know the man behind the code, and I wouldn&#039;t want you to hesitate when you want to say something.

But that doesn&#039;t mean that I won&#039;t disagree with certain things. :o)

I reacted a little rashly because of the sarcastic tone of the post, and for that I&#039;m sorry. This post was meant to get a reaction out of someone like me, and it did. 

Apologies,

--J]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want this site less personal. I like the real side of blogs and that&#8217;s why I read here in addition to reading books or other tech sites. We get to know the man behind the code, and I wouldn&#8217;t want you to hesitate when you want to say something.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean that I won&#8217;t disagree with certain things. :o)</p>
<p>I reacted a little rashly because of the sarcastic tone of the post, and for that I&#8217;m sorry. This post was meant to get a reaction out of someone like me, and it did. </p>
<p>Apologies,</p>
<p>&#8211;J</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sigh. Disagreeing with a point is fine if argued politely. Other people trying to tell you what you should and shouldn&#039;t post on your own site is simply ridiculous. 

For what it&#039;s worth, the ability to get a more rounded picture, a fuller story, is the glory of this medium. When I was first at college I had to take, on face value, the words of the authors of my books despite knowing nothing about them.

These days I am provided background information which is marvellous. An ongoing discussion of your areas of expertise is wonderful and inspiring. Including in that discussion your interests, motivations and opinions serves to provide context.

I would rather lose commenting from this site than lose your freedom to post whatever the hell you want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Disagreeing with a point is fine if argued politely. Other people trying to tell you what you should and shouldn&#8217;t post on your own site is simply ridiculous. </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, the ability to get a more rounded picture, a fuller story, is the glory of this medium. When I was first at college I had to take, on face value, the words of the authors of my books despite knowing nothing about them.</p>
<p>These days I am provided background information which is marvellous. An ongoing discussion of your areas of expertise is wonderful and inspiring. Including in that discussion your interests, motivations and opinions serves to provide context.</p>
<p>I would rather lose commenting from this site than lose your freedom to post whatever the hell you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hester</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/11/22/targets-backdoor-sale/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Because, after all, Target is &lt;em&gt;clearly&lt;/em&gt; promoting a homosexual lifestyle by offering this item.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is no way this item is clearly homosexual. I once saw a program which said one of the biggest buyers of strap-on dildos were married couples.

I like the mix of topics on this site. It&#039;d be boring if it were all CSS. (Not that Eric&#039;s CSS topics have ever been boring.) Watch out when talking about your radio show, Eric! That ain&#039;t nothin&#039; to do with CSS. And Zeldman had better stop posting pictures of his newly-born daughter - after all, his site is supposed to be about web coding, right? And so on, yawn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because, after all, Target is <em>clearly</em> promoting a homosexual lifestyle by offering this item.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no way this item is clearly homosexual. I once saw a program which said one of the biggest buyers of strap-on dildos were married couples.</p>
<p>I like the mix of topics on this site. It&#8217;d be boring if it were all CSS. (Not that Eric&#8217;s CSS topics have ever been boring.) Watch out when talking about your radio show, Eric! That ain&#8217;t nothin&#8217; to do with CSS. And Zeldman had better stop posting pictures of his newly-born daughter &#8211; after all, his site is supposed to be about web coding, right? And so on, yawn.</p>
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