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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/06/18/cnn-redesigns/#comment-5841</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya nice design....

But out of all the site cnn should be the leader in accessibility, taking full advantage of css, xhtml, rss and all the acronyms out there ;)

Them nothing going with xhtml, is just them saying they are above that (kinda like microsoft)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya nice design&#8230;.</p>
<p>But out of all the site cnn should be the leader in accessibility, taking full advantage of css, xhtml, rss and all the acronyms out there ;)</p>
<p>Them nothing going with xhtml, is just them saying they are above that (kinda like microsoft)</p>
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		<title>By: MattLat</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattLat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN should upgrade to xhtml... most of those errors showing up at the moment though, are easy fixes.  

As for the Sydney Morning Herald, they&#039;re really ahead of the game when it comes to css and not using tables (their &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//www.smh.com.au/&quot; title=&quot;xhtml validation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xhtml&lt;/a&gt; could use a bit of work though), but from a useability standpoint, I think that cnn is doing a lot better. Clear headlines, navigation that stands out, page isn&#039;t cluttered.

Each one has it&#039;s pros and cons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN should upgrade to xhtml&#8230; most of those errors showing up at the moment though, are easy fixes.  </p>
<p>As for the Sydney Morning Herald, they&#8217;re really ahead of the game when it comes to css and not using tables (their <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//www.smh.com.au/" title="xhtml validation" rel="nofollow">xhtml</a> could use a bit of work though), but from a useability standpoint, I think that cnn is doing a lot better. Clear headlines, navigation that stands out, page isn&#8217;t cluttered.</p>
<p>Each one has it&#8217;s pros and cons.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gruber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Gruber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;m happy to see the redesign, and it appears to be faster, I&#039;m a little dissapointed in the table-based layout. If ESPN and the Kansas City Chief&#039;s web site can use CSS for layout, there&#039;s no reason why CNN couldn&#039;t either.

Still, I see a significant speed improvement in load times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m happy to see the redesign, and it appears to be faster, I&#8217;m a little dissapointed in the table-based layout. If ESPN and the Kansas City Chief&#8217;s web site can use CSS for layout, there&#8217;s no reason why CNN couldn&#8217;t either.</p>
<p>Still, I see a significant speed improvement in load times.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Burgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - 

I rarely watch network or cable news, and when I want to know multiple sides of an issue, I search news.google.com and look at multiple sides.  The big three are next to worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211; </p>
<p>I rarely watch network or cable news, and when I want to know multiple sides of an issue, I search news.google.com and look at multiple sides.  The big three are next to worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: Hebron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hebron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, it&#039;s fixed width, leaving a huge chunk of white and using pixel-sized fonts. Same goes for the two other news sites, is it so hard to flow the layout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it&#8217;s fixed width, leaving a huge chunk of white and using pixel-sized fonts. Same goes for the two other news sites, is it so hard to flow the layout?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian raised an excellent point. The BBC gives a more digestable chunk. Need we also discuss feeds from CNN compred with the BBC? I am subscribed to various feeds from both. In CNN: user hits title, &quot;No description available&quot;. Now that&#039;s useful, right? Why even syndicate if the subscriber gets 2-word provocative titles? The BBC is different, possibly because it has no commercial interests (ads). It also opened its news API to the public recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian raised an excellent point. The BBC gives a more digestable chunk. Need we also discuss feeds from CNN compred with the BBC? I am subscribed to various feeds from both. In CNN: user hits title, &#8220;No description available&#8221;. Now that&#8217;s useful, right? Why even syndicate if the subscriber gets 2-word provocative titles? The BBC is different, possibly because it has no commercial interests (ads). It also opened its news API to the public recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; That confusion comes from watching CNN. It will pass, my friend.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, getting balanced reporting looking at multiple sides of a story does tend to leave one more confused than the heavily one-sided stuff you get elsewhere.

Actually, I kid---I don&#039;t watch CNN.  Or Fox, or MSNBC, or the &quot;Big Three&quot;, or...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> That confusion comes from watching CNN. It will pass, my friend.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, getting balanced reporting looking at multiple sides of a story does tend to leave one more confused than the heavily one-sided stuff you get elsewhere.</p>
<p>Actually, I kid&#8212;I don&#8217;t watch CNN.  Or Fox, or MSNBC, or the &#8220;Big Three&#8221;, or&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Burgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wait, I&quot;m confused– when you say that, are you talking about CNN or Fox News?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That confusion comes from watching CNN.  It will pass, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wait, I&#8221;m confused– when you say that, are you talking about CNN or Fox News?</p></blockquote>
<p>That confusion comes from watching CNN.  It will pass, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/a&gt; appears to still be ahead of the crowd!  How large media organisations can redesign in 2005 whilst still using tables as the foundation of their design... eugh!  Visually I prefer the SMH website over those of most other media organisations, too, although Australia&#039;s publicly-owned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ABC&lt;/a&gt; radio and television network is also standards compliant and visually not-too-bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/" rel="nofollow">The Sydney Morning Herald</a> appears to still be ahead of the crowd!  How large media organisations can redesign in 2005 whilst still using tables as the foundation of their design&#8230; eugh!  Visually I prefer the SMH website over those of most other media organisations, too, although Australia&#8217;s publicly-owned <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/" rel="nofollow">ABC</a> radio and television network is also standards compliant and visually not-too-bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Cheung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m biased but I still prefer the layout of the BBC News site.  With the CNN site there is too much happening below &quot;the fold&quot;.  Still it could be a cultural thing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m biased but I still prefer the layout of the BBC News site.  With the CNN site there is too much happening below &#8220;the fold&#8221;.  Still it could be a cultural thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now if they could only work on the content.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait, I&#039;m confused-- when you say that, are you talking about CNN or Fox News?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now if they could only work on the content.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, I&#8217;m confused&#8211; when you say that, are you talking about CNN or Fox News?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Burgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, I detest the new format that FoxNews is using.  It&#039;s clutter, popups, and force-feeding.  CNN&#039;s new look is definitely an improvement.  Now if they could only work on the content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, I detest the new format that FoxNews is using.  It&#8217;s clutter, popups, and force-feeding.  CNN&#8217;s new look is definitely an improvement.  Now if they could only work on the content.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63 errors? Come on now. I&#039;m as much of a purist as the next guy, but for a big site like CNN, that&#039;s nothing. (No, I&#039;m not justifying it... I know there are plenty of big sites that validate, and I think &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; site should validate.. I&#039;m just sayin&#039;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63 errors? Come on now. I&#8217;m as much of a purist as the next guy, but for a big site like CNN, that&#8217;s nothing. (No, I&#8217;m not justifying it&#8230; I know there are plenty of big sites that validate, and I think <em>every</em> site should validate.. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Will Kessel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Kessel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s their &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//www.cnn.com/&quot; title=&quot;W3C Validation Report on CNN.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;validation report. Ick.

&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s their <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//www.cnn.com/" title="W3C Validation Report on CNN.com" rel="nofollow">validation report. Ick.</p>
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Everybody&#8217;s favorite fringe news organization, CNN, has updated the design of <a href="http://cnn.com/">their Web site</a>.  Unlike the last three changes of design, I actually like this one out of the gate.  Yes, I always got used to the old designs and quickly at that, but at first I disliked them.  This time I&#8217;m impressed.  It&#8217;s a little bit sparse, but the restrained use of whitespace is a refreshing change from many news sites (*cough*<a href="http://foxnews.com/">Fox News</a>*cough*).
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In part, this may be because the design isn&#8217;t a redesign so much as a tasteful makeover of the old design.  By that, I mean that everything&#8217;s basically in the same place as before, just with a more serious look.  However, it&#8217;s the addition of extra functionality that really appeals to me.  For example, most section boxes now have the title followed by unobtrusive links to the main section page, video or other media, and then partner links.  These links add a lot without upsetting the apple cart, as it were.
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I also note with a good deal of interest that CNN&#8217;s video clips are now free; previously, you had to pay money to see their video.  What forces led them to drop the subscription fee, I wonder?  I can think of some likely candidates, but it would be interesting to hear from CNN why they did it.
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Of course, they&#8217;re only free if you have the Windows Media Player 9 plugin installed.  Otherwise, they&#8217;re simply unavailable.  Gah!
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<li><a href="http://tweetagewasteland.com/2010/03/my-head-is-in-the-cloud/" title="March 18 | &#8220;I sense that my addiction to the realtime stream is only making room for the consumption of a faster stream.&#8221;">My Head is in the Cloud</a> <small>[via <a href="http://daringfireball.net/">John</a>]</small></li>
<li><a href="http://8bitnyc.com/" title="March 17 | All of a sudden I want to establish a mission in Central Park and negotiate with the natives for gold and food.">8-Bit NYC</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicqklGuB0&amp;feature=player_embedded" title="March 12 | Wry comment expressing my appreciation of the creative derivativeness of this video and its uncanny accuracy in mocking common tropes.">Academy Award Winning Movie Trailer</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU" title="March 9 | &#8220;Apple juice&#8230; for half price!&#8221;  More like twice PRICELESS.  (Note: If you&#8217;re at work, don your headphones.)">Happy in Paraguay</a> <small>[via <a href="http://unstoppablerobotninja.com/">Ethan</a>]</small></li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5ubAOeOBk&amp;feature=player_embedded" title="February 10 | This is approximately the best thing ever.">U900 -Walk Don&#8217;t Run (Isogabamaware)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201002/sifr_default_css_hides_content_from_at_least_one_screen_reader/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A 456bereastreet %28456 Berea Street%29" title="February 8 | -9999px comes through again, but I really wish we were beyond that kind of thing.">sIFR default CSS hides content from at least one screen reader</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20100117064356428" title="February 8 | Storing this for future use.">Take a picture with the iSight camera when a folder is opened</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mingle2.com/blog/view/web-developer-mind" title="February 4 | Mostly valid.  (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)">The Mind of a Web Developer: An Illustrated Diagram</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/science_channel_refuses_to_dumb" title="January 28 | &#8220;Punkin Chunkin, for Christ&#8217;s sake&#8230; What more do you people want?&#8221;">Science Channel Refuses To Dumb Down Science Any Further</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/project-omnivore-declassified/" title="January 27 | Sounds like quite a feat.  But I wonder how we&#8217;d feel if Microsoft or Google announced the same kind of thing on their e-mail services.">MailChimp&#8217;s Project Omnivore: Declassified</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/25/carolyn-maloney/congresswoman-says-democratic-presidents-create-mo/" title="January 26 | &#8220;Obviously, luck matters a lot, but when there is a consistent pattern over more than 60 years, it starts to look like more than just luck.&#8221;">Congresswoman says Democratic presidents create more private-sector jobs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make.html" title="January 25 | Truth.">Taylor Mali: What teachers make</a></li>
<li><a href="http://notebook.johnmartz.com/how-websites-work?c=1" title="January 22 | At last, the truth is out and I can stop pretending:  beatific monkeys are what makes it all go.">How websites work</a></li>
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