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	<title>Comments on: Clickety-Clack, Move On Back</title>
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		<title>By: John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-289174</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s difficult to impossible to determine beforehand whether a speaker is interesting enough to hold your attention, though, and moving about would be far more disruptive.  What&#039;s more, part of a talk may interest you, and the rest may not.  Your proposal would tend to push toward the back those who are there for reasons other than interest in the topic, but they probably stay towards the back anyhow so they can slip out less obtrusively.

Isaac Asimov used to say that he never looked at his audience, but he always listened to them, and the thing he always hoped to get (and sometimes actually did get) was absolute silence: no coughing or whispering (this ways before the laptop/wifi era).  Then he knew he had them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult to impossible to determine beforehand whether a speaker is interesting enough to hold your attention, though, and moving about would be far more disruptive.  What&#8217;s more, part of a talk may interest you, and the rest may not.  Your proposal would tend to push toward the back those who are there for reasons other than interest in the topic, but they probably stay towards the back anyhow so they can slip out less obtrusively.</p>
<p>Isaac Asimov used to say that he never looked at his audience, but he always listened to them, and the thing he always hoped to get (and sometimes actually did get) was absolute silence: no coughing or whispering (this ways before the laptop/wifi era).  Then he knew he had them.</p>
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		<title>By: OK/Cancel			&#187; Blog Archive
	  &#187; Does Communication Everywhere Improve Communication?</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6128</link>
		<dc:creator>OK/Cancel			&#187; Blog Archive
	  &#187; Does Communication Everywhere Improve Communication?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  WiFi access within the actual speaker presentations raised by Jeff Veen, Doug Bowman, and Eric Meyer.  I&#8217;ve noticed the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: JetSetDesign  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; WiFi and Presentations</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6121</link>
		<dc:creator>JetSetDesign  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; WiFi and Presentations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 7;s debatable weather or not IRC chats and other meta conversations are of as much value. 	Eric Meyer has a good solution and it&#8217;s that good and idea since  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 7;s debatable weather or not IRC chats and other meta conversations are of as much value. 	Eric Meyer has a good solution and it&#8217;s that good and idea since  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: john allsopp</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6113</link>
		<dc:creator>john allsopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,

its interesting that Doug you and Jeff are all talking about this, as we at Web Essentials have been mulling this over for more than a year. And you guys are all speaking there :-)
Last year, it wasn&#039;t possible to get wifi for the conference, which we felt was no big deal, as its rare at Aussie conferences, and we felt that having people connected could be too distracting. After being at SxSW (where for the panel I organised we used a live blog for questions) I came to feel that it is de rigeur to have wifi, but we still worried about the effect discussed by you, Jeff and Doug. This year we will be having wifi, but not in the venue. This is partly because we are using the Uni network, and they exclude lecture theatres from the wifi network (as a teacher, I found years ago network access in classrooms really distracting for students, and at times this infuriated me).

Yes, we exclude the prospect of innovative uses of the network as mentioned by you, Doug  and many commenters, but I think its a compromise that might work for now.

We&#039;ll see :-)

john


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>its interesting that Doug you and Jeff are all talking about this, as we at Web Essentials have been mulling this over for more than a year. And you guys are all speaking there :-)<br />
Last year, it wasn&#8217;t possible to get wifi for the conference, which we felt was no big deal, as its rare at Aussie conferences, and we felt that having people connected could be too distracting. After being at SxSW (where for the panel I organised we used a live blog for questions) I came to feel that it is de rigeur to have wifi, but we still worried about the effect discussed by you, Jeff and Doug. This year we will be having wifi, but not in the venue. This is partly because we are using the Uni network, and they exclude lecture theatres from the wifi network (as a teacher, I found years ago network access in classrooms really distracting for students, and at times this infuriated me).</p>
<p>Yes, we exclude the prospect of innovative uses of the network as mentioned by you, Doug  and many commenters, but I think its a compromise that might work for now.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see :-)</p>
<p>john</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6111</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your suggested behaviour is standard practice at most of the lectures I attend at my university.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your suggested behaviour is standard practice at most of the lectures I attend at my university.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan S</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6110</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really have to agree with Casey. I am paying quite a bit to get to Sydney to hear you and others speak at WE05 and do not see the point in using this time to check email etc. Although I feel it would be very useful to have wifi in a practical type session allowing the audience to follow along with the speaker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have to agree with Casey. I am paying quite a bit to get to Sydney to hear you and others speak at WE05 and do not see the point in using this time to check email etc. Although I feel it would be very useful to have wifi in a practical type session allowing the audience to follow along with the speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: John Evans</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6109</link>
		<dc:creator>John Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 09:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that sounds like quite the social experiment. I wonder if you would get all the people at the front and no one at the back in some sort of social guilt fuled response...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that sounds like quite the social experiment. I wonder if you would get all the people at the front and no one at the back in some sort of social guilt fuled response&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never understaood the point of paying hundreds of dollars to listen to people speak and have the chance to ask them questions and get feedback from them (in realtime!), and instead be nerding it up when you can do that anywhere anytime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never understaood the point of paying hundreds of dollars to listen to people speak and have the chance to ask them questions and get feedback from them (in realtime!), and instead be nerding it up when you can do that anywhere anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/13/clickety-clack-move-on-back/#comment-6107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just as guilty as the next person of being consumed by the temptation of free wifi to check my e-mail, chat with friends, upload photos, read RSS, etc.

I like the idea you have proposed here Eric. It definitely makes sense. Although at SXSW, I would think the access points would be up near the stage somewhere (as the signal seemed to get weaker in hallways).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just as guilty as the next person of being consumed by the temptation of free wifi to check my e-mail, chat with friends, upload photos, read RSS, etc.</p>
<p>I like the idea you have proposed here Eric. It definitely makes sense. Although at SXSW, I would think the access points would be up near the stage somewhere (as the signal seemed to get weaker in hallways).</p>
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