Comments on: IE7 and IE7

By: Marianne Stone

Marianne Stone — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:54:12 +0000

I cannot thank you enough for this script!!!!
I’m sort of a beginner at web design - still have so very much to learn - and having to recode everything for IE was just so frustrating.
I’ve got a bunch of different things on some of my pages for this site - FusionCharts, a javascript nav bar, and transparent pngs. I tried a few of the recommended .png fixes, but they either didn’t work for me or they caused more problems than they solved. This *fixes* the problem!!!! and it doesn’t mess up my other JS-driven business. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! (now I can move on to the other stuff…)

By: PNG Transparenz im IE 5 & IE 6 | bueltge.de [by:ltge.de]

PNG Transparenz im IE 5 & IE 6 | bueltge.de [by:ltge.de] — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:10:32 +0000

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By: Tim Pettersen

Tim Pettersen — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:24:35 +0000

Now, if IE7 decides to start following the !important declaration but fails to resolve all the problems that call for me to use it then I’m in big trouble! ;o)

Looks like they are (I’m running IE 7.0.5730.11), another workaround (untested, found on another site) is to use IE7’s “conditional comments”. For example:

‘[if lt IE 7]’ apparently continues for IE versions

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Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:15:25 +0000

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By: Tableless » Blog Archive » Podcast Tableless #12

Tableless » Blog Archive » Podcast Tableless #12 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:55:35 +0000

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By: Cameron Skene

Cameron Skene — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:13:34 +0000

Once scenario might see ie7 breaking all the sites that use hacks. Users won’t think “oh there using hacks” they will just think ie7 sux because with ie6 their favourite site looked fine. I’m sure this something the ie team have thought about.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:38:28 +0000

I think IE7 is doing the right thing by eliminating hacks, such as ‘tan’, and trusting us as developers to step forwards and get sites compliant. After all, we did hack IE in the first place, which we knew someday would change.

My question is, why can’t we just take our IE 5 and 6 hacks and throw them in a conditional statement that links to an ie56.css stylesheet. It seems like this would be the best way to isolate problems with IE5 and 6 and let us develop hack-free (we hope) in IE7.

By: Bryan Veloso

Bryan Veloso — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:52:39 +0000

Does anybody else know of any sites that have successfully used the IE7 script? I’ve tried it on multiple sites of mine and at work with no difference. Maybe I’m using it wrong, but I do want to see it out in the open.

By: Angela Ricci

Angela Ricci — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:22:14 +0000

MS is quite annoying for me : they claim to do their best to make IE7 to be standards compliant (what is goooood! specially if they want to stay on the run), they ask everybody to throw away hacks for IE6 and IE5 (that everybody uses in the best way they can to correct IE’s problems), BUT, at the same time, they give us a proprietary solution to the hacks (which, IMHO is nothing more than a disguised “offical” hack), what is not the way to do in a standard world (worst if we’re heading to a more “accessible” world). It is amazing how they make things so we have to depend on them … It is frustrating

By: Martin Bekkelund » IE7: Har du skutt deg i beinet?

Martin Bekkelund » IE7: Har du skutt deg i beinet? — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:39:31 +0000

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Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:55:57 +0000

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By: Mani Sheriar

Mani Sheriar — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:01:19 +0000

I’ve been reading all the blogging going on about this issue and, granted I haven’t read every single post, I haven’t seen any mention of the ie specific “hack” that I use all the time (pretty much the only one, besides specifying height:1% whenever anything involving floats goes screwy in ie), and that is use of the !important declaration.

I love this “hack” because it validates and uses regular old css. It goes like this - if ie has moved something over 3px to the right when all other browsers seem to get it right, I simply say:

#something {margin-left:0 !important;}
#something {margin-left:-3px;}

Since ie ignores the !important declaration it applies the rules in the second line, while all other browsers apply the rules in the first line.

Now, if IE7 decides to start following the !important declaration but fails to resolve all the problems that call for me to use it then I’m in big trouble! ;o)

By: Podcast #12 | BrunoTorres.net

Podcast #12 | BrunoTorres.net — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:23:29 +0000

[…] e a história da microsoft pedir aos desenvolvedores para tirar os CSS Hacks já que eles (possivelmente) não vão funcionar no IE7 (comentário do Eric Meyer sobre o assunto); […]

By: Michael Ward

Michael Ward — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:01:29 +0000

If there are new/unfixed rendering bugs in IE7 (almost inevitable?) then we’ll have to find new CSS parsing bugs that target IE7.

Some or most of the rendering bugs from IE6 will be fixed in IE7, so MS had to fix the CSS parsing bugs else we would have had a problem - we would have been serving CSS code to fix bugs that don’t exist in IE7, we would then have been faced with the dilemma of choosing support for IE7 or IE6, or finding another workaround.

Hopefully the majority of rendering bugs will be fixed and our current sites will work fine. Why we need to drop the hacks is beyond me - IE7 should ignore them and take the valid css code. If there are then any problems then it is the IE7 renderer at fault, and not the CSS hacks.

By: Jemaleddin

Jemaleddin — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:12:10 +0000

I’m not sure that the IE7 team understands the way that this is supposed to work. If they’re going to actually fix the problems that caused us to need the hacks, they should fix the hacks.

Meaning that the reason that we have hacks is that they’re browser is broken in at least two ways: it doesn’t handle some display issue properly, necessitating the hack, and it doesn’t handle whatever the hack exploits in the CSS itself (precedence, comments, whatever).

Their job isn’t just to fix what’s wrong with padding or whatever, but also to fix things like * html. Then the hacks won’t matter.