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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-406345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This also triggered in IE7.  I don&#039;t understand how that could be.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also triggered in IE7.  I don&#8217;t understand how that could be.</p>
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		<title>By: graphiceyedea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IE6? IE7? &#8230;to hack or not to hack?&#8230; the dreaded question&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-354076</link>
		<dc:creator>graphiceyedea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IE6? IE7? &#8230;to hack or not to hack?&#8230; the dreaded question&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] To Hack With It - Eric Meyer [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To Hack With It &#8211; Eric Meyer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh-Kerr.com &#187; IE Sucks</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-39278</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh-Kerr.com &#187; IE Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/" rel="nofollow">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Gagne</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-13934</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Gagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a css hack that works for all versions of internet explorer, including ie7. You can read about it here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibloomstudios.com/article7/&quot; title=&quot;The IE7 CSS Hack&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The IE7 CSS Hack&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a css hack that works for all versions of internet explorer, including ie7. You can read about it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.ibloomstudios.com/article7/" title="The IE7 CSS Hack" rel="nofollow">The IE7 CSS Hack</a></p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-9920</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just an oppinion, but, if Microsoft and it&#039;s IE are making people such a problematic existance for such a long time and with no solid hope for a brighter future, shouldn&#039;t it simply be banned from the market and the users be announced / warned (on MS&#039;s expense, ofcourse) to switch to a BROWSER ? If it would be in my power, that&#039;s what I&#039;d do, with no regrets at all ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an oppinion, but, if Microsoft and it&#8217;s IE are making people such a problematic existance for such a long time and with no solid hope for a brighter future, shouldn&#8217;t it simply be banned from the market and the users be announced / warned (on MS&#8217;s expense, ofcourse) to switch to a BROWSER ? If it would be in my power, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d do, with no regrets at all &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michal Tatarynowicz</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-9761</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Tatarynowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 04:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be a naive question, but what&#039;s wrong with using the !important hack for IE?

margin-left: 150px !important;
margin-left: 75px;

I use it all the time and wouldn&#039;t like to find out it&#039;s a mistake to use this syntax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be a naive question, but what&#8217;s wrong with using the !important hack for IE?</p>
<p>margin-left: 150px !important;<br />
margin-left: 75px;</p>
<p>I use it all the time and wouldn&#8217;t like to find out it&#8217;s a mistake to use this syntax.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey A. Tyson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-8590</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey A. Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow... I just came across this post, and after reading so much about IE7, conditional comments, etc., it was nice to find someone who put in words exactly what I&#039;ve been thinking.  You&#039;re exactly right - keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I just came across this post, and after reading so much about IE7, conditional comments, etc., it was nice to find someone who put in words exactly what I&#8217;ve been thinking.  You&#8217;re exactly right &#8211; keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Meckan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-8555</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Meckan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m finding some designers are mistaking the Tan Hack, along with the fix that is in IE7, for the global white space reset. Not a good thing when the amateur designers misunderstand what is being corrected and what isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m finding some designers are mistaking the Tan Hack, along with the fix that is in IE7, for the global white space reset. Not a good thing when the amateur designers misunderstand what is being corrected and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: netgeek.com &#187; IE7</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-8049</link>
		<dc:creator>netgeek.com &#187; IE7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sing less.  We&#8217;ll have to wait and see.. 	Eric Meyer offers us some hope in his post To Hack with it.     	And for those of you interested in testing, but don&#8217;t w [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sing less.  We&#8217;ll have to wait and see.. 	Eric Meyer offers us some hope in his post To Hack with it.     	And for those of you interested in testing, but don&#8217;t w [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper Van Proeyen</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-8046</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper Van Proeyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing that the IE7 team has to keep in mind is this: follow the W3C standards, plus create an updated version of FrontPage that follows these standards.

Then:
a. amateurs will have the chance of building websites that are W3C compliant.
b. professional webdesigners, like me, will have a job, because &quot;bigger&quot; sites will have to follow these standards too and that&#039;s not as obvious as it seems.

Pure economy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that the IE7 team has to keep in mind is this: follow the W3C standards, plus create an updated version of FrontPage that follows these standards.</p>
<p>Then:<br />
a. amateurs will have the chance of building websites that are W3C compliant.<br />
b. professional webdesigners, like me, will have a job, because &#8220;bigger&#8221; sites will have to follow these standards too and that&#8217;s not as obvious as it seems.</p>
<p>Pure economy!</p>
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		<title>By: Nas Hashmi</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-8033</link>
		<dc:creator>Nas Hashmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed that IE7 was out long while before the bloggers wrote about it. I also knew the hacks were not working.  While I was learning CSS, i continually went into the source of MSN.com and found that they use the hacks very often in their css file for all sorts of browsers (e.g. safari, ie/mac, ie/win, firefox).

Yet it was peculiar to notice they had a conditional comment for &quot;IE7&quot; all of a sudden up.  (I went into the source continuously, so i noticed changes as well.)  I knew then that even the MSN.com team were having trouble as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that IE7 was out long while before the bloggers wrote about it. I also knew the hacks were not working.  While I was learning CSS, i continually went into the source of MSN.com and found that they use the hacks very often in their css file for all sorts of browsers (e.g. safari, ie/mac, ie/win, firefox).</p>
<p>Yet it was peculiar to notice they had a conditional comment for &#8220;IE7&#8243; all of a sudden up.  (I went into the source continuously, so i noticed changes as well.)  I knew then that even the MSN.com team were having trouble as well.</p>
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		<title>By: iEdML</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>iEdML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It happened a few times at Netscape when I worked there. We were very proactive, offering fixes to sites and working to do as you suggest, and had some internal support for that mission (heck, it was part of why they hired me). But when it came down to it, if a site wouldn&quot;t change and it was big enough, the browser bent to accommodate the site. The same can very easily happen at Microsoft.&quot;

So you mean we may have actually found a situation here where we would cheer on Microsoft to use its monopoly and ignore the rest of the industry?

That&#039;s ironic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It happened a few times at Netscape when I worked there. We were very proactive, offering fixes to sites and working to do as you suggest, and had some internal support for that mission (heck, it was part of why they hired me). But when it came down to it, if a site wouldn&#8221;t change and it was big enough, the browser bent to accommodate the site. The same can very easily happen at Microsoft.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you mean we may have actually found a situation here where we would cheer on Microsoft to use its monopoly and ignore the rest of the industry?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ward</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-7447</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, I misphrased my comment - you use the hacks to pass patched up CSS to crap browsers. A good browser will ignore the hack and apply the correct CSS code.

If IE7 fixes its rendering bugs then all the CSS hacks I&#039;ve used (presumably fixed in IE7) will have no effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I misphrased my comment &#8211; you use the hacks to pass patched up CSS to crap browsers. A good browser will ignore the hack and apply the correct CSS code.</p>
<p>If IE7 fixes its rendering bugs then all the CSS hacks I&#8217;ve used (presumably fixed in IE7) will have no effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Podcast #12 &#124; BrunoTorres.net</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-7434</link>
		<dc:creator>Podcast #12 &#124; BrunoTorres.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] olvedores para tirar os CSS Hacks já que eles (possivelmente) não vão funcionar no IE7 (comentário do Eric Meyer sobre o assunto); ainda teve a história do maluco que co [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] olvedores para tirar os CSS Hacks já que eles (possivelmente) não vão funcionar no IE7 (comentário do Eric Meyer sobre o assunto); ainda teve a história do maluco que co [...]</p>
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		<title>By: write.myobie.com  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; IE 7 will break your site</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/10/18/to-hack-with-it/#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>write.myobie.com  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; IE 7 will break your site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] s release or a release date is known. I am not going to waste my time with this.  It seems Eric Meyer agrees with me. 	 	 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] s release or a release date is known. I am not going to waste my time with this.  It seems Eric Meyer agrees with me.<br />
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