Comments on: Charting IE7b2 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/ Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it's largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff Mon, 12 May 2008 05:46:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Alex http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-266297 Alex Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:06:48 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-266297 [...] The goal of all this isn’t just to make sure Microsoft knows about every CSS bug under the sun, though that certainly wouldn’t hurt. [...] […] The goal of all this isn’t just to make sure Microsoft knows about every CSS bug under the sun, though that certainly wouldn’t hurt. […]

]]> By: css 英文相关文章以及站点 - 第8音 Design Everying http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-153097 css 英文相关文章以及站点 - 第8音 Design Everying Sun, 13 May 2007 11:07:07 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-153097 [...] Charting IE7b2 [...] […] Charting IE7b2 […]

]]> By: » Überblick: Internet Explorer 7 — cne _LOG Archiv http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-29086 » Überblick: Internet Explorer 7 — cne _LOG Archiv Tue, 16 May 2006 10:30:13 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-29086 [...] xisitieren, liste ich sie hier lediglich auf: Eric Meyer selbst gibt Tipps für eine gute IE7-Testumgebung. Auch Microsoft unterstützt Webdesigner und bietet Hilfe zur CSS-K [...] […] xisitieren, liste ich sie hier lediglich auf: Eric Meyer selbst gibt Tipps für eine gute IE7-Testumgebung. Auch Microsoft unterstützt Webdesigner und bietet Hilfe zur CSS-K […]

]]> By: Girl Gone Geeky » Blog Archive » IE 7 (beta 2 preview)…is it any good? http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-15641 Girl Gone Geeky » Blog Archive » IE 7 (beta 2 preview)…is it any good? Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:04:52 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-15641 [...] ed (with I probably assume is will still buggy, but then again it may all change, so there might not be a need to panic), but I can’t help but favour towards opera and fi [...] […] ed (with I probably assume is will still buggy, but then again it may all change, so there might not be a need to panic), but I can’t help but favour towards opera and fi […]

]]> By: Jad’s thoughts » Some links for light reading http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14650 Jad’s thoughts » Some links for light reading Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:28:46 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14650 [...] nor to format this post but from my previous experience, Russ sends only valuable emails. Charting IE7b2 User Zoom in IE7 Opera 9 Preview 2 - Anne’s Weblog Opera 9 Prev [...] […] nor to format this post but from my previous experience, Russ sends only valuable emails. Charting IE7b2 User Zoom in IE7 Opera 9 Preview 2 - Anne’s Weblog Opera 9 Prev […]

]]> By: Bernhard Huber Warszawa SEO » Blog Archive » Internet Explorer 7 Microsoft : TEST http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14562 Bernhard Huber Warszawa SEO » Blog Archive » Internet Explorer 7 Microsoft : TEST Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:34:52 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14562 [...] .com/2006/02/03/security-issues-and-bugs-in-ie-7/ http://ben-ward.co.uk/journal/trying-to-test-ie7/ http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/ http://ajaxian.com/archives/ie-7-preview-release-download-test-pray http://zeo.unic.net.m [...] […] .com/2006/02/03/security-issues-and-bugs-in-ie-7/ http://ben-ward.co.uk/journal/trying-to-test-ie7/ http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/ http://ajaxian.com/archives/ie-7-preview-release-download-test-pray http://zeo.unic.net.m […]

]]> By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training » Blog Archive » Some links for light reading (8/2/06) http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14418 Max Design - standards based web design, development and training » Blog Archive » Some links for light reading (8/2/06) Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:24:26 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14418 [...] Some links for light reading (8/2/06) February 8th, 2006 Charting IE7b2 User Zoom in IE7 Opera 9 Preview 2 - Anne’s Weblog Opera 9 P [...] […] Some links for light reading (8/2/06) February 8th, 2006 Charting IE7b2 User Zoom in IE7 Opera 9 Preview 2 - Anne’s Weblog Opera 9 P […]

]]> By: Richard York http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14414 Richard York Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:10:38 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14414 Beta 2 should come with the words "Don't Panic" printed in large, friendly letters right on the cover... :-) Beta 2 should come with the words “Don’t Panic” printed in large, friendly letters right on the cover… :-)

]]> By: Chris Hester http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14411 Chris Hester Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:54:29 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14411 Zoom is a filter that works in IE5.5+. It is useful in that it enables pixel fonts to be enlarged, along with any other element. Alas it can get messy; I don't think Microsoft finished implementing it properly. The good news is, IE7b2 now has a drop-down zoom menu, that enlarges the whole screen! So your layout is kept intact, like when you zoom in Opera. To use the zoom filter in IE6, just give it a value without a suffix. So "2" gives you 200%. "1.5" is 150%, and so on. Another point to mention here is that applying zoom to an element also triggers "hasLayout" (the solution to many IE bugs). You can apply "zoom:1" if you don't want the element enlarged. Zoom is a filter that works in IE5.5+. It is useful in that it enables pixel fonts to be enlarged, along with any other element. Alas it can get messy; I don’t think Microsoft finished implementing it properly. The good news is, IE7b2 now has a drop-down zoom menu, that enlarges the whole screen! So your layout is kept intact, like when you zoom in Opera.

To use the zoom filter in IE6, just give it a value without a suffix. So “2″ gives you 200%. “1.5″ is 150%, and so on.

Another point to mention here is that applying zoom to an element also triggers “hasLayout” (the solution to many IE bugs). You can apply “zoom:1″ if you don’t want the element enlarged.

]]> By: Chris Neale http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14406 Chris Neale Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:18:06 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14406 There's no such property as 'zoom' ? Linux Firefox 1.5.0.1 / GNOME Ubuntu has the horizontal scrollbar. There’s no such property as ‘zoom’ ?

Linux Firefox 1.5.0.1 / GNOME Ubuntu has the horizontal scrollbar.

]]> By: Cecil Ward http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14396 Cecil Ward Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:36:23 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14396 A word about "simple tests". I have already reported a couple of CSS parsing bugs. Various other reported bugs have demonstrated that it is likely that other bugs will turn up which can mess up tests, in the sense that tests can fail for the <em>wrong reasons</em> or can give a false 'success' result. For this reason, its a good idea to consider 'testing around' the area you wish to look at. The results from some of the published tests aimed at establishing whether CSS features are supported or not are perturbed by the presence of 'irrelevant' or 'semi-relevant' parsing bugs. Cecil Ward. A word about “simple tests”. I have already reported a couple of CSS parsing bugs. Various other reported bugs have demonstrated that it is likely that other bugs will turn up which can mess up tests, in the sense that tests can fail for the wrong reasons or can give a false ’success’ result.

For this reason, its a good idea to consider ‘testing around’ the area you wish to look at. The results from some of the published tests aimed at establishing whether CSS features are supported or not are perturbed by the presence of ‘irrelevant’ or ’semi-relevant’ parsing bugs.

Cecil Ward.

]]> By: Ingo Chao http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14389 Ingo Chao Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:34:49 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14389 The huge horizontal scrollbar visible in IE7b2 is due to new bugs. #thoughts #rss-tb { overflow: hidden; zoom:1; ...} #extra { overflow: hidden; ...} should do. Time for another bugreport. The huge horizontal scrollbar visible in IE7b2 is due to new bugs.

#thoughts #rss-tb { overflow: hidden; zoom:1; …}

#extra { overflow: hidden; …}

should do.

Time for another bugreport.

]]> By: Pete Rossetti http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14388 Pete Rossetti Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:09:32 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14388 <blockquote>There is a horizontal scrollbar on this page in FireFox 1.5 as well. Can’t go blaming MS on that one then I guess.</blockquote> But not in Firefox 1.501!!!

There is a horizontal scrollbar on this page in FireFox 1.5 as well. Can’t go blaming MS on that one then I guess.

But not in Firefox 1.501!!!

]]> By: Easy Reader » Blog Archive » More on IE7 Beta 2 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14384 Easy Reader » Blog Archive » More on IE7 Beta 2 Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:17:40 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14384 [...] More on IE7 Beta 2 Eric has a very enlightened post for those of you out to document bugs in IE7 Beta 2. He also echoed my feelings that [...] […]

More on IE7 Beta 2

Eric has a very enlightened post for those of you out to document bugs in IE7 Beta 2. He also echoed my feelings that […]

]]> By: Chris Hester http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14376 Chris Hester Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:42:43 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14376 I feel doing a simple test like Eric suggests for p:hover isn't quite enough. Often bugs relate to complex layouts where one element triggers an effect to fail. So I would suggest creating a page with things like a div inside a float, a div inside a frame, differently positioned divs, and as many real-life examples as you can construct. Then see if the hover works no matter where the element resides. Try different elements too, such as div:hover, span:hover, etc. You never know when one element may fail. (Does abbr:hover work?) <blockquote cite="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/02/03/charting-ie7b2/#comment-14318">There is a horizontal scrollbar on this page in FireFox 1.5 as well.</blockquote> I'm not seeing that myself, even down to 800 x 600. I'm using Windows XP. I feel doing a simple test like Eric suggests for p:hover isn’t quite enough. Often bugs relate to complex layouts where one element triggers an effect to fail. So I would suggest creating a page with things like a div inside a float, a div inside a frame, differently positioned divs, and as many real-life examples as you can construct. Then see if the hover works no matter where the element resides. Try different elements too, such as div:hover, span:hover, etc. You never know when one element may fail. (Does abbr:hover work?)

There is a horizontal scrollbar on this page in FireFox 1.5 as well.

I’m not seeing that myself, even down to 800 x 600. I’m using Windows XP.

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