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		<title>By: kathy</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-274394</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could mix them up. Send applications for VISA cards (still blank of course) to Mastercard &amp; vice versa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could mix them up. Send applications for VISA cards (still blank of course) to Mastercard &amp; vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-257321</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no bad karma if you sent nice &quot;re-humanizing&quot; notes (which could be subversive of the soul crushing corporate environment).

You could actually be performing a valuable public service!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no bad karma if you sent nice &#8220;re-humanizing&#8221; notes (which could be subversive of the soul crushing corporate environment).</p>
<p>You could actually be performing a valuable public service!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Sargan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-257234</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Sargan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[* Use them to send stuff into school with kids - money, forms, etc or to milkman or paperboy - anything needing an envelope but not anything special
* Acquire some labels and re-use them (most offices have a drawer full of sheets of labels they can&#039;t use)
* Functional recycling is better than recycling them as paper

I&#039;m no fun, am I?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Use them to send stuff into school with kids &#8211; money, forms, etc or to milkman or paperboy &#8211; anything needing an envelope but not anything special<br />
* Acquire some labels and re-use them (most offices have a drawer full of sheets of labels they can&#8217;t use)<br />
* Functional recycling is better than recycling them as paper</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no fun, am I?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Vit</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256875</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Vit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say do a bit of cross-media promotion and mail them a printout of your spam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say do a bit of cross-media promotion and mail them a printout of your spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Peters</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256844</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I enjoy the mischief, just recycle them.  The payoff&#039;s not worth it.

Many municipal recycling progams will take both the inner and outer envelopes.  Shred anything personal and recycle the rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I enjoy the mischief, just recycle them.  The payoff&#8217;s not worth it.</p>
<p>Many municipal recycling progams will take both the inner and outer envelopes.  Shred anything personal and recycle the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: JZ</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256841</link>
		<dc:creator>JZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do exactly what Dan Guy does. I stuff as much as I possibly can into those envelopes and send them back. I can usually get all of the weekly sales circulars and credit card offers each week into the business reply envelopes I receive. I tend to remove my personal information, but getting a call is hilarious.

I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thinkcage.com/blog/2003/11/14/sending-junk-mail-back/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged about it&lt;/a&gt; a few years ago, including a photo of a typical envelope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do exactly what Dan Guy does. I stuff as much as I possibly can into those envelopes and send them back. I can usually get all of the weekly sales circulars and credit card offers each week into the business reply envelopes I receive. I tend to remove my personal information, but getting a call is hilarious.</p>
<p>I <a href="http://www.thinkcage.com/blog/2003/11/14/sending-junk-mail-back/" rel="nofollow">blogged about it</a> a few years ago, including a photo of a typical envelope.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256823</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Netherlands, postage paid envelopes work with special addresses, like free phone numbers start with a special &#039;area code&#039;. Obviously you only pay for the letters sent to them, just like the phone company only charges for the calls that were made to the free number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Netherlands, postage paid envelopes work with special addresses, like free phone numbers start with a special &#8216;area code&#8217;. Obviously you only pay for the letters sent to them, just like the phone company only charges for the calls that were made to the free number.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256446</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BIG LOL @ Dan Guy ^^^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIG LOL @ Dan Guy ^^^</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Guy</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256140</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bash.org/?127039&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bash.org (QDB)&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;wolf&gt; 1. Save every Free Credit Card Offer you get, Put it in pile A 
&lt;wolf&gt; 2. Save every Free Coupon You get, put that in pile B 
&lt;wolf&gt; 3. Now open the credit card mail from pile A and find the Business Reply Mail Envelope. 
&lt;wolf&gt; 4. Take the coupons from pile B and stuff them in the envelope you hold in your hand. 
&lt;wolf&gt; 5. Drop the stuffed to the brim envelopes in your mail and walk away whistling. 
&lt;wolf&gt; I have now received two phone calls from the credit card companies telling me that they received a stuffed envelope with coupons rather then my application. They informed me that it they are not pleased that they footed the bill for the crap I sent them. I reply with &quot;It says Business Reply Mail&quot; I&#039;m suggesting coupons to you to ensure that your business is more successful. They promptly hang up on me. 
&lt;wolf&gt; Now, I did this for about a month before it got boring, so I got an added idea! I added exactly 33 cents worth of pennies to the envelope so they paid EXTRA due to the weight. I got a call informing me about the money, I said it was a mistake and I demanded my change back. After yelling at the clerk and then to the supervisor they agreed to my demands and cut me a check for the money. I hold in my hand at this very moment a check from GTE Visa for exactly 33 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from <a href="http://www.bash.org/?127039" rel="nofollow">bash.org (QDB)</a>:<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; 1. Save every Free Credit Card Offer you get, Put it in pile A<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; 2. Save every Free Coupon You get, put that in pile B<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; 3. Now open the credit card mail from pile A and find the Business Reply Mail Envelope.<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; 4. Take the coupons from pile B and stuff them in the envelope you hold in your hand.<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; 5. Drop the stuffed to the brim envelopes in your mail and walk away whistling.<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; I have now received two phone calls from the credit card companies telling me that they received a stuffed envelope with coupons rather then my application. They informed me that it they are not pleased that they footed the bill for the crap I sent them. I reply with &#8220;It says Business Reply Mail&#8221; I&#8217;m suggesting coupons to you to ensure that your business is more successful. They promptly hang up on me.<br />
&lt;wolf&gt; Now, I did this for about a month before it got boring, so I got an added idea! I added exactly 33 cents worth of pennies to the envelope so they paid EXTRA due to the weight. I got a call informing me about the money, I said it was a mistake and I demanded my change back. After yelling at the clerk and then to the supervisor they agreed to my demands and cut me a check for the money. I hold in my hand at this very moment a check from GTE Visa for exactly 33 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Wiley</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-256115</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have two unopened quarts of shredder oil.  One from our first dearly departed machine and the other for the new.  Hmm, 2 + 2...hey, you&#039;re supposed to oil that thing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two unopened quarts of shredder oil.  One from our first dearly departed machine and the other for the new.  Hmm, 2 + 2&#8230;hey, you&#8217;re supposed to oil that thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Allen [msft]</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-255874</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Allen [msft]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We shred all of ours as well.  I created two stacks of form letters; one which says (summary), &quot;I received unsolicited mail from you; I am registered on the do not mail list already, please stop sending&quot;; and another which says &quot;You have already been told to stop sending me mail, if you refuse to comply with my request I will be forced to take legal action&quot;.  I use a stack of the 1st letter for 1st and 2nd offenses, and the second letter for abusers.

Packaging these letters takes only as much time as shredding, and makes a dramatic difference in the number of card ads I receive.

I often rip off and save the address labels for the ones that don&#039;t have postage-paid, so then I can print return envelopes in batches of 10 or more (since it&#039;s too much work to print a single envelope at the time of shredding, but in batch the total time sink is small).

It&#039;s a never-ending battle though, and some places even ignore the &quot;I&#039;ll sue you&quot; letters.  I am sure I could sue and win, since I have meticulous records; but it&#039;s not worth it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shred all of ours as well.  I created two stacks of form letters; one which says (summary), &#8220;I received unsolicited mail from you; I am registered on the do not mail list already, please stop sending&#8221;; and another which says &#8220;You have already been told to stop sending me mail, if you refuse to comply with my request I will be forced to take legal action&#8221;.  I use a stack of the 1st letter for 1st and 2nd offenses, and the second letter for abusers.</p>
<p>Packaging these letters takes only as much time as shredding, and makes a dramatic difference in the number of card ads I receive.</p>
<p>I often rip off and save the address labels for the ones that don&#8217;t have postage-paid, so then I can print return envelopes in batches of 10 or more (since it&#8217;s too much work to print a single envelope at the time of shredding, but in batch the total time sink is small).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a never-ending battle though, and some places even ignore the &#8220;I&#8217;ll sue you&#8221; letters.  I am sure I could sue and win, since I have meticulous records; but it&#8217;s not worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ximena</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-255647</link>
		<dc:creator>Ximena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opt out at the 1-800 number listed on the offer (I think it&#039;s 1-800-OPT-OUT or something like that) works.  You can do this online too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opt out at the 1-800 number listed on the offer (I think it&#8217;s 1-800-OPT-OUT or something like that) works.  You can do this online too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Vester</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-255588</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Vester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is incredible. I have heard of people sending unsolicited mail back to sender, but I&#039;ve never actually really thought about doing something like that myself. Now after reading all of those wonderful comments, I feel a bit mischievous (or shall I say inspired?!?). :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredible. I have heard of people sending unsolicited mail back to sender, but I&#8217;ve never actually really thought about doing something like that myself. Now after reading all of those wonderful comments, I feel a bit mischievous (or shall I say inspired?!?). :)</p>
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		<title>By: Carol S.</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-255183</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enclose an excuse in them and send them out one per day.

I actually enjoy things like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enclose an excuse in them and send them out one per day.</p>
<p>I actually enjoy things like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anabella</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/11/01/enveloped/#comment-255147</link>
		<dc:creator>Anabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try opting out at OptOutPrescreen.com -- it seems to work, at least for a while...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try opting out at OptOutPrescreen.com &#8212; it seems to work, at least for a while&#8230;</p>
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