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	<title>Comments on: Meta-change</title>
	<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/</link>
	<description>Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it's largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: about: X-UA-Compatible, Take 3 at weboholic.de</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-354735</link>
		<dc:creator>about: X-UA-Compatible, Take 3 at weboholic.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-354735</guid>
		<description>[...] Official anouncment and some people&#8217;s reactions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Official anouncment and some people&#8217;s reactions. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Best Of March 2008 - juliomarroquin.com</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-345146</link>
		<dc:creator>Best Of March 2008 - juliomarroquin.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-345146</guid>
		<description>[...] APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Best Of March 2008 &#124; Best of the Month &#124; Smashing Magazine</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-343183</link>
		<dc:creator>Best Of March 2008 &#124; Best of the Month &#124; Smashing Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-343183</guid>
		<description>[...] APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Andre&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-03-05</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-335507</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-03-05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-335507</guid>
		<description>[...] IE 8 to default into standards mode. “Microsoft Expands Support for Web Standards: Company outlines new approach to make standards-based rendering the default mode in Internet Explorer 8, will work with Web designers and content developers to help with standards behavior transition (tags: standards ie ie8 html ie7 microsoft web browser) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] IE 8 to default into standards mode. “Microsoft Expands Support for Web Standards: Company outlines new approach to make standards-based rendering the default mode in Internet Explorer 8, will work with Web designers and content developers to help with standards behavior transition (tags: standards ie ie8 html ie7 microsoft web browser) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: maxdesign &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some links for light reading (4/3/08)</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-333796</link>
		<dc:creator>maxdesign &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some links for light reading (4/3/08)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-333796</guid>
		<description>[...] Meta-change [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Meta-change [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Big Ahha &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web Standards 180: IE8 To Be Web Standards Compliant By Default</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-332029</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Ahha &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web Standards 180: IE8 To Be Web Standards Compliant By Default</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-332029</guid>
		<description>[...] I only hope that Microsoft maintains their newfound focus on standards and, as Eric Meyer stated: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I only hope that Microsoft maintains their newfound focus on standards and, as Eric Meyer stated: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331804</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331804</guid>
		<description>I think my favorite part of that post is part of Ray Ozzie's quote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;"…we have decided to give top priority to support for these &lt;b&gt;new Web standards&lt;/b&gt;..."&lt;/blockquote&gt;
New Web standards - wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my favorite part of that post is part of Ray Ozzie&#8217;s quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;…we have decided to give top priority to support for these <b>new Web standards</b>&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>New Web standards - wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stevens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 8 (beta) released</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331786</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stevens &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 8 (beta) released</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331786</guid>
		<description>[...] earlier this week that IE8 will have standards-based rendering as it&#8217;s default mode (via Meyerweb), I&#8217;m more inclined to check it out sooner rather than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] earlier this week that IE8 will have standards-based rendering as it&#8217;s default mode (via Meyerweb), I&#8217;m more inclined to check it out sooner rather than [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 - bza.no</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331691</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 - bza.no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331691</guid>
		<description>[...] om at IE8 likevel ikke bruker IE7 renderingmode som standard, men heller tar skrittet dit alle interesserte ville gå er fremtiden plutselig lysere. Betydningen av dette er markant ettersom den opprinnelige [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] om at IE8 likevel ikke bruker IE7 renderingmode som standard, men heller tar skrittet dit alle interesserte ville gå er fremtiden plutselig lysere. Betydningen av dette er markant ettersom den opprinnelige [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Rossi</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331217</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Rossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331217</guid>
		<description>1 Giant step in the right direction. Hopefully the momentum sticks with them. Finally getting the message heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 Giant step in the right direction. Hopefully the momentum sticks with them. Finally getting the message heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331121</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-331121</guid>
		<description>You mean besides his post and various followup comments yesterday on zeldman.com, &lt;a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330970" rel="nofollow"&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;?  Or did you have a different JZ in nind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean besides his post and various followup comments yesterday on zeldman.com, <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330970" rel="nofollow">David</a>?  Or did you have a different JZ in nind?</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330976</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330976</guid>
		<description>Oops, did I say opt-in? That was naughty, I meant opt-out. Though I was thinking otp-in for standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, did I say opt-in? That was naughty, I meant opt-out. Though I was thinking otp-in for standards.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330970</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330970</guid>
		<description>I think M$ marketing department were finally made aware of the long term implications for their previous decision and the penny dropped. I've argued consistantly around the traps that opt-in would kill not only IE but, all the tag soup readers and generators in the M$ portfolio. Good to see that the big picture has finally been seen and understood.

There has been alot of the 'it doesn't feel right' posts in blogs about opt-in. Mostly, because the big picture about the opt-in implications are hard to articulate from the multi-perspective user/developer of the  web. But at the end of the day, this gut feeling was the correct one and its good to see that the tech guys in M$ were able to put a constructive, well-thought out argument to marketing around the choices M$ has berfore it. Well done.

Btw, has anyone heard from JZ lately, he seems to have gone a bit quite...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think M$ marketing department were finally made aware of the long term implications for their previous decision and the penny dropped. I&#8217;ve argued consistantly around the traps that opt-in would kill not only IE but, all the tag soup readers and generators in the M$ portfolio. Good to see that the big picture has finally been seen and understood.</p>
<p>There has been alot of the &#8216;it doesn&#8217;t feel right&#8217; posts in blogs about opt-in. Mostly, because the big picture about the opt-in implications are hard to articulate from the multi-perspective user/developer of the  web. But at the end of the day, this gut feeling was the correct one and its good to see that the tech guys in M$ were able to put a constructive, well-thought out argument to marketing around the choices M$ has berfore it. Well done.</p>
<p>Btw, has anyone heard from JZ lately, he seems to have gone a bit quite&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Blown</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330812</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Blown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330812</guid>
		<description>The pushback will come anyway, regardless of this latest back flip. We saw it with IE6, IE7 and we'll see it again with IE8. Several large organizations we deal with have resisted IE7 like the plague. When asked why and what evidence they have to oppose such an upgrade, the IT staff just shrug and say it'll probably break everything and mumble something about Vista. This is a sentiment passed down the line from Microsoft, and its hard for these IT staff to shake it. But you're right here Eric, it certainly won't speed up adoption. And that is really the main stumbling block for the success of IE8. 

That said I prefer it this way round than the other :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pushback will come anyway, regardless of this latest back flip. We saw it with IE6, IE7 and we&#8217;ll see it again with IE8. Several large organizations we deal with have resisted IE7 like the plague. When asked why and what evidence they have to oppose such an upgrade, the IT staff just shrug and say it&#8217;ll probably break everything and mumble something about Vista. This is a sentiment passed down the line from Microsoft, and its hard for these IT staff to shake it. But you&#8217;re right here Eric, it certainly won&#8217;t speed up adoption. And that is really the main stumbling block for the success of IE8. </p>
<p>That said I prefer it this way round than the other :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Johnson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330743</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/03/meta-change/#comment-330743</guid>
		<description>As I commented on WaSP, hooray! Yet another reason to look forward to the year 2013! &#60;/snark&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I commented on WaSP, hooray! Yet another reason to look forward to the year 2013! &lt;/snark&gt;</p>
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