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		<title>By: Destry Wion</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-382009</link>
		<dc:creator>Destry Wion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re certainly right, much harder done than said by the likes of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re certainly right, much harder done than said by the likes of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-381918</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In theory, we&#039;d absolutely love to bring AEA to other countries.  In practice, there are a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of obstacles to overcome to make it happen.  Not all of them are obvious before you really get serious about the idea.

So I can&#039;t say when---or, to be completely honest, even if---we&#039;ll have events outside the US.  I&#039;d like to do so.  Jeffrey would like to do so.  But then there a lot of things we&#039;d like to do that can&#039;t or won&#039;t happen for any number of reasons.

Sorry if I sound overly pessimistic, but I&#039;ve made statements of intent in the past on this subject, and every single one of them has not come to pass.  I&#039;m just glad I didn&#039;t make any actual promises, because I was hyper-opposed to breaking promises even before I became a parent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, we&#8217;d absolutely love to bring AEA to other countries.  In practice, there are a <em>lot</em> of obstacles to overcome to make it happen.  Not all of them are obvious before you really get serious about the idea.</p>
<p>So I can&#8217;t say when&#8212;or, to be completely honest, even if&#8212;we&#8217;ll have events outside the US.  I&#8217;d like to do so.  Jeffrey would like to do so.  But then there a lot of things we&#8217;d like to do that can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t happen for any number of reasons.</p>
<p>Sorry if I sound overly pessimistic, but I&#8217;ve made statements of intent in the past on this subject, and every single one of them has not come to pass.  I&#8217;m just glad I didn&#8217;t make any actual promises, because I was hyper-opposed to breaking promises even before I became a parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Destry Wion</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-381206</link>
		<dc:creator>Destry Wion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 09:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  concur with the others in wondering when these Even  Apart gigs stop becoming US-centric. For example, all those names you drop in the San Fran event...I know those people travel outside of the US for other conferences and such, so...

Europe is a likely place, at least at first, and since you have web pros from the tops of Norway to the the bottoms of Spain and Italy I would offer that the first location be somewhere in the middle of the pie. Why not Strasbourg, France. It&#039;s small enough to make it easy to get around for the event and after socials (the tram system is stupid easy and efficient), and large enough to be very interesting to first-timers. The latter is part of the magic too because I&#039;ll bet a lot of people, even Europeans, don&#039;t make it to Strasbourg.

Another good bet would be Brussels, Belgium, but then, like any big European city, you&#039;ve just made inner-city commuting 100 times more difficult.

Regardless of where, the real point is when?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  concur with the others in wondering when these Even  Apart gigs stop becoming US-centric. For example, all those names you drop in the San Fran event&#8230;I know those people travel outside of the US for other conferences and such, so&#8230;</p>
<p>Europe is a likely place, at least at first, and since you have web pros from the tops of Norway to the the bottoms of Spain and Italy I would offer that the first location be somewhere in the middle of the pie. Why not Strasbourg, France. It&#8217;s small enough to make it easy to get around for the event and after socials (the tram system is stupid easy and efficient), and large enough to be very interesting to first-timers. The latter is part of the magic too because I&#8217;ll bet a lot of people, even Europeans, don&#8217;t make it to Strasbourg.</p>
<p>Another good bet would be Brussels, Belgium, but then, like any big European city, you&#8217;ve just made inner-city commuting 100 times more difficult.</p>
<p>Regardless of where, the real point is when?</p>
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		<title>By: Idat</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-378576</link>
		<dc:creator>Idat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I concur with Juan Zamudio, there are so many interesting events that simply don&#039;t happen in other countries, such as Mexico in his case, or worst in Peru as my case, where there&#039;s hardly any at all... I don&#039;t know if its good business wise for you, but have you ever considered webcasting your event, or at least some of the central key conferences? I&#039;m sure people would flock to see them on your site...!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Juan Zamudio, there are so many interesting events that simply don&#8217;t happen in other countries, such as Mexico in his case, or worst in Peru as my case, where there&#8217;s hardly any at all&#8230; I don&#8217;t know if its good business wise for you, but have you ever considered webcasting your event, or at least some of the central key conferences? I&#8217;m sure people would flock to see them on your site&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Sander Aarts</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377810</link>
		<dc:creator>Sander Aarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was hoping that Europe was &#039;the opposite coast&#039; you were referring to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping that Europe was &#8216;the opposite coast&#8217; you were referring to.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377358</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377254&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bridget&lt;/a&gt;: that would be awesome!  I&#039;ll actually be driving down the morning of the conference (due to inescapable scheduling conflicts) and plan to stay through the following morning, so maybe we&#039;ll get a chance to hang out in Athens.  Which is the story of my life: I only get to hang out with fellow Clevelanders when I&#039;m in other cities.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377268&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Juan&lt;/a&gt;: we&#039;ve considered it, but honestly the European Union is a more likely spot for us if we do go abroad.  Although I really, &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; like the sound of An Event Apart Acapulco.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377296&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunny&lt;/a&gt;: thanks for the link!  I sort of suspected there had to be a plugin like that, and I appreciate the pointer.  I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve got all the pieces in place to do the upgrade; all I need now is to run a database backup and I should be all set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377254" rel="nofollow">Bridget</a>: that would be awesome!  I&#8217;ll actually be driving down the morning of the conference (due to inescapable scheduling conflicts) and plan to stay through the following morning, so maybe we&#8217;ll get a chance to hang out in Athens.  Which is the story of my life: I only get to hang out with fellow Clevelanders when I&#8217;m in other cities.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377268" rel="nofollow">Juan</a>: we&#8217;ve considered it, but honestly the European Union is a more likely spot for us if we do go abroad.  Although I really, <em>really</em> like the sound of An Event Apart Acapulco.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377296" rel="nofollow">Sunny</a>: thanks for the link!  I sort of suspected there had to be a plugin like that, and I appreciate the pointer.  I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve got all the pieces in place to do the upgrade; all I need now is to run a database backup and I should be all set.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Version-controlled upgrading makes my day once a month. Do consider using this WordPress plugin for extra no-fuss-ness : http://sunfox.org/wordpress-svn-update/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Version-controlled upgrading makes my day once a month. Do consider using this WordPress plugin for extra no-fuss-ness : <a href="http://sunfox.org/wordpress-svn-update/" rel="nofollow">http://sunfox.org/wordpress-svn-update/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan Zamudio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Zamudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever consider planing any events like this outside US? I always hear about this events and I would love to be in one, but the chances of me going to US or you guys organizing any event in my country (Mexico) are very low, anyway best of luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever consider planing any events like this outside US? I always hear about this events and I would love to be in one, but the chances of me going to US or you guys organizing any event in my country (Mexico) are very low, anyway best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Stewart</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/20/tour-de-frantic/#comment-377254</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That event in Athens looks interesting, considering it is nearby. I&#039;ve put in the request at work for permission to attend. Maybe I&#039;ll see you there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That event in Athens looks interesting, considering it is nearby. I&#8217;ve put in the request at work for permission to attend. Maybe I&#8217;ll see you there!</p>
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