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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Phone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by softballgurl33 on July 21, 2008  Phone for Direction  http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/07/08/phone-for-direction/ - bookmarked by 4 members [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/07/08/phone-for-direction/#comment-395135</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, for $3 or so you could get a pocket compass...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, for $3 or so you could get a pocket compass&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/07/08/phone-for-direction/#comment-393652</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned above, the iPhone unlike the unreleased Android does not know it&#039;s orientation. The accelerometers/tilt and other sensors have no clue what direction it is facing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned above, the iPhone unlike the unreleased Android does not know it&#8217;s orientation. The accelerometers/tilt and other sensors have no clue what direction it is facing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never bought from them, but their assortment looks quite attractive:
http://www.brasscompass.com/

(If an electronic device knows its position and orientation, then that could help with augmented-reality implementations.)

jd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never bought from them, but their assortment looks quite attractive:<br />
<a href="http://www.brasscompass.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brasscompass.com/</a></p>
<p>(If an electronic device knows its position and orientation, then that could help with augmented-reality implementations.)</p>
<p>jd</p>
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		<title>By: mdja</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, maintaining a relation to the cardinal compass points in most European cities if you grew up in Europe and hence have a natural understanding of how towns and cities grow and develop in relationship to the landscape and environment around them.  It&#039;s only grid-dwellers who struggle.

Secondly, those who live in cities don&#039;t really need to know the cardinal compass points, they only need to know where they are and how to get where they are going (in London, &quot;down street X&quot; or &quot;on tube line Y&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, maintaining a relation to the cardinal compass points in most European cities if you grew up in Europe and hence have a natural understanding of how towns and cities grow and develop in relationship to the landscape and environment around them.  It&#8217;s only grid-dwellers who struggle.</p>
<p>Secondly, those who live in cities don&#8217;t really need to know the cardinal compass points, they only need to know where they are and how to get where they are going (in London, &#8220;down street X&#8221; or &#8220;on tube line Y&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow that compass is such a great idea. So ironically archaic and simply futuristic at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow that compass is such a great idea. So ironically archaic and simply futuristic at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also do not have an iPhone... but it should have a clock with hands application right? (Afterall, my plain old cell phone has one)
Use the compass /slash/ watch method.... on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikihow.com/Find-True-North-Without-a-Compass&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wikihow&lt;/a&gt; scroll down to Watch Method, Northern Hemisphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also do not have an iPhone&#8230; but it should have a clock with hands application right? (Afterall, my plain old cell phone has one)<br />
Use the compass /slash/ watch method&#8230;. on <a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Find-True-North-Without-a-Compass" rel="nofollow">wikihow</a> scroll down to Watch Method, Northern Hemisphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. That&#039;s definitely an idea alright.

If only I knew how to implement the ideas I get...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. That&#8217;s definitely an idea alright.</p>
<p>If only I knew how to implement the ideas I get&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google&#039;s upcoming Android platform has something even better.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRfVKzuUJ4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Compass + Streetview&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s upcoming Android platform has something even better.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRfVKzuUJ4" rel="nofollow">Compass + Streetview</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disillusion you but GPS can only be used to determine position, to get direction you need 2 positions which usually means that you need to move. Maybe the motion sensor can help once your direction is known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to disillusion you but GPS can only be used to determine position, to get direction you need 2 positions which usually means that you need to move. Maybe the motion sensor can help once your direction is known.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re partway there, Jordan, but are missing the real key to this, which is to use the Safari icon.  Seriously, that&#039;s integral to the proposal.  Maybe the Safari team will do it for us?  I can but hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re partway there, Jordan, but are missing the real key to this, which is to use the Safari icon.  Seriously, that&#8217;s integral to the proposal.  Maybe the Safari team will do it for us?  I can but hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some is way ahead of you already: http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/07/posimotion-unveils-unfortunately-named-iphone-app/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some is way ahead of you already: <a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/07/posimotion-unveils-unfortunately-named-iphone-app/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/07/posimotion-unveils-unfortunately-named-iphone-app/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dare I say, brilliant?

I am very excited about the new iPhone 3G.

However, I am immensely excited about the App Store and the genius and elegant apps that are sure to be created. Based on the mere glimpses we&#039;ve had so far, the possibilities astound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dare I say, brilliant?</p>
<p>I am very excited about the new iPhone 3G.</p>
<p>However, I am immensely excited about the App Store and the genius and elegant apps that are sure to be created. Based on the mere glimpses we&#8217;ve had so far, the possibilities astound.</p>
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At one point during <a href="http://aneventapart.com/events/2008/boston/">An Event Apart Boston</a>&#8212;for which I finally uploaded <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/meyerweb/tags/aeaboston08/">my few pictures</a>, to add to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/aeaboston08/pool/">the much larger pool</a>&#8212;I observed that Boston, like parts of New York City and most European cities, is a place where maintaining a relation to the cardinal compass points is almost impossible.  Thanks to its centuries-long Organic Growth Syndrome, finding one&#8217;s way can be next to impossible, even when you have Google Maps giving you directions on your iPhone.  (Not <em>my</em> iPhone; I don&#8217;t have one yet, which makes my posting of <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/05/05/the-really-perfect-ringtone/">the perfect ringtone</a> deliciously ironic.  But certainly on whoever around you has an iPhone, which is put-near ever&#8217;body, these days.)
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Of course, the soon-to-be-released <a href="http://apple.com/iphone/">3G iPhone</a> will have true GPS capabilities, I said, and that&#8217;s when it hit me: someone should take the iPhone SDK and an insanely high-resolution copy of the Safari logo and put them together to create a 3G iPhone compass.  Hold it level and watch the needle find true north!  Genius.
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