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		<dc:creator>pepelsbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><small>[Fixed.  Thanks!  -E.]</small></p>
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		<dc:creator>We Need Better Tools &#124; R.A. Ray - Designer in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fantasai</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m flattered that you think I&#039;m doing a good job, despite taking a full year to respond to the WASP feedback. :) But really, I&#039;m only doing half the job of a liaison: I can bridge from the WG to the design community. But I can&#039;t effectively bridge back from the web design community to the WG. I&#039;m not a part of that community. I don&#039;t share its skills or its frustrations. I barely keep up with the fringes of its news. It will take the opposite of me to make up the other half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m flattered that you think I&#8217;m doing a good job, despite taking a full year to respond to the WASP feedback. :) But really, I&#8217;m only doing half the job of a liaison: I can bridge from the WG to the design community. But I can&#8217;t effectively bridge back from the web design community to the WG. I&#8217;m not a part of that community. I don&#8217;t share its skills or its frustrations. I barely keep up with the fringes of its news. It will take the opposite of me to make up the other half.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer dissects WaSP Community CSS3 Feedback 2008 &#124; Wisdump</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Roberts</title>
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		<description>Very interesting article, having just read through it I found many of the suggestions - especially those being considered already - very exciting. 

I look forward to reading your response to the results.</description>
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Back before holiday season hit, Elika Etemad&#8212;better known as <a href="http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/">Fantasai</a>&#8212;published <a href="http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/style/discuss/wasp-feedback-2008">WaSP Community CSS3 Feedback 2008</a>.  I gave it a read and came away with a number of things I wanted to say.  So many things, in fact, that I&#8217;ll need to split them up into a series of posts.  This here post will serve as introduction and hub, with links to the follow-on entries added as they&#8217;re published.  All very <a href="http://tbray.org/ongoing/" rel="acquaintance met">Bray</a>-ny, no?  (Go ahead, groan.  It only encourages me.)
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I want to make clear up front that I&#8217;m not going to address every single point in the feedback document: it&#8217;s just too incredibly huge.  I did think about making my own copy and then just filling in my reactions to each point, but that didn&#8217;t scale very well.  Not only did it seem really overbearing and maybe just a touch egotistical, but some of my reactions were based on related topics in separate areas of the original.  Besides, I know what it&#8217;s like trying to read a really, really long article, so breaking it up and just focusing on the parts that got me fired up made way more sense.
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There is one thing I want to address before I start serving up the follow-on installments.  At the end of Fantasai&#8217;s post, there&#8217;s a link to <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/09/15/w3c-change-outreach/">my 2006 post</a> about the benefit of having a community liaison, someone who bridges the gap between the WG and the public.  She then asks if anyone is interested in volunteering, but personally, I don&#8217;t see the need.  The WG already has a community liaison:  it&#8217;s you, Fantasai.  It has been for some time now, thanks to your regular and informative <a href="http://www.w3.org/blog/CSS">CSS WG blog</a> posts and other outreach work such as &#8220;WaSP Community CSS3 Feedback 2008&#8243;.  The job is being done, and being done very well, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any doubt that the Working Group is much, much better for it.
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