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		<title>By: Alan Gresley</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2009/04/11/handling-an-explicit-width-bug-in-internet-explorer/#comment-477996</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Gresley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Eric,

Interesting IE7- bug. I did a little test and found that if the text within the span also warps to a second line, then the bug disappears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Eric,</p>
<p>Interesting IE7- bug. I did a little test and found that if the text within the span also warps to a second line, then the bug disappears.</p>
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		<title>By: vancouver web design</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2009/04/11/handling-an-explicit-width-bug-in-internet-explorer/#comment-468583</link>
		<dc:creator>vancouver web design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would we do with our time if we couldn&#039;t spend it fixing IE rendering chaos?

Good job on the workaround, I&#039;ve added it to the toolbox.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would we do with our time if we couldn&#8217;t spend it fixing IE rendering chaos?</p>
<p>Good job on the workaround, I&#8217;ve added it to the toolbox.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,
sounds a little bit like the known bug &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IE percentage bugs&lt;/a&gt; documented at PIE. Also known to show up with the ALA &#039;holy grail&#039; layout, and a fix for it is discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.satzansatz.de&lt;/a&gt;.
Usually shows up as the &#039;jump&#039; when you hover over something in IE...
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html&quot;&gt;While page flow, percentages [..] skip one generation in IE. Children respect their grandparents.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
sounds a little bit like the known bug <a href="http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html" rel="nofollow">IE percentage bugs</a> documented at PIE. Also known to show up with the ALA &#8216;holy grail&#8217; layout, and a fix for it is discussed <a href="http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.satzansatz.de</a>.<br />
Usually shows up as the &#8216;jump&#8217; when you hover over something in IE&#8230;</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html"><p>While page flow, percentages [..] skip one generation in IE. Children respect their grandparents.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (14/4/09)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (14/4/09)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw your post I was hoping you&#039;d found the cause of this bug:

http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/09/ie8-and-max-width.html

Perhaps you already know about that one and what is causing it? Would be really greatful for any input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw your post I was hoping you&#8217;d found the cause of this bug:</p>
<p><a href="http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/09/ie8-and-max-width.html" rel="nofollow">http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/09/ie8-and-max-width.html</a></p>
<p>Perhaps you already know about that one and what is causing it? Would be really greatful for any input.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Kadlec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Kadlec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just when you think you&#039;ve found them all already...

Thanks for the write-up! This serves as a great example of how web developers should be approaching bugs when we come across them. Experimentation followed by documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when you think you&#8217;ve found them all already&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the write-up! This serves as a great example of how web developers should be approaching bugs when we come across them. Experimentation followed by documentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Pemberton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Pemberton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why we should &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saveie6.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Save IE6&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why we should <a href="http://www.saveie6.com/" rel="nofollow">Save IE6</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Incognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;ve never seen or heard of that one before either?! IE really is the gift that keeps on giving eh?</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ever-awesome&quot;?! You&#039;re too kind! Nice explanation of exactly what was going on here...and again, wonderful work on the survey as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ever-awesome&#8221;?! You&#8217;re too kind! Nice explanation of exactly what was going on here&#8230;and again, wonderful work on the survey as a whole.</p>
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In creating the combo-bar charts for <a href="http://aneventapart.com/alasurvey2008">the survey report</a>, I stumbled into an Explorer bug that I didn&#8217;t remember ever seeing before, and Google didn&#8217;t turn up anything that seemed to be related.  This could easily mean that I&#8217;m the only person who ever did something this insane and thus found the bug.  It could just as easily mean that my Google-fu has failed.  Either way, I&#8217;ll write it up here so it can enter the collective memory.  (And surely someone has already noted that Google is positively Jungian?)
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You can see both the problem and two workarounds if you visit <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/winie/table-double/testcase.html">this test page</a> using IE6 or IE7.  In brief, the problem occurred when I had a table cell containing a paragraph with an explicit width set.  I did this through the <code>style</code> attribute, though tests show that for this bug, it doesn&#8217;t matter whether you use the attribute or assign it via a style sheet.  Around these explicit-width paragraphs were <code>div</code> elements with <code>width: 200%;</code>, for bar-drawing purposes (it&#8217;s a little complicated).  Everything was fine in 99% of cases.  But as soon as the header text at the beginning of the row went to two lines of text, the explicit-width paragraphs doubled in width.  What was <code>80.1%</code> wide would be drawn as though it were <code>160.2%</code> wide.
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My hopefully understandable reaction was to say, &#8220;Whuh?&#8221;.  I threw a few hasLayout triggers at the offending paragraph (relative position, <code>zoom</code>, etc.) and got nowhere.  In the end I worked around the problem by telling IE6 and IE7 to not wrap text in the row headers of combo charts.  (The bug is not present in IE8.)
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I mentioned all this in <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2009/04/07/findings-of-the-a-list-apart-survey-2008/">my announcement post</a>, and the ever-awesome <a href="http://wilkinsonweb.com/">Dan Wilkinson</a> <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2009/04/07/findings-of-the-a-list-apart-survey-2008/#comment-454002">discovered</a> that the problem could be fixed by setting all of the table rows to, say, <code>height: 3em</code>.  Armed with that breakthrough, I experimented a little more and found that I could actually set the offending table row&#8217;s height to <code>2.75em</code> and still have things work as intended.  Below that and the paragraph widths doubled.
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Then I lowered the <code>line-height</code> of the headers to <code>1</code> and found that I could take the overall row&#8217;s <code>height</code> as low as <code>2.33em</code> before triggering the bug.  And that&#8217;s when it dawned: the bug was triggered by the layout height of the header cell&#8217;s content being taller than the content of the cell containing the paragraph, <em>and</em> not explicitly declaring styles that would make the data cell as tall as or taller than the height needed to have the header cell contain its content.
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Okay, that&#8217;s a little dense.  Let me step through the symptoms and two found workarounds to see if that clears it up:
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<li>The data cell always has a single line of text.  The bug is triggered by having the header cell go to two lines of text, whereas it is not if the header cell has a single line of text.</li>
<li>If the row&#8217;s height is explicitly set to a value equal to or greater than the header cell&#8217;s content, the bug is not triggered.</li>
<li>Alternatively, if the height of the data cell is set or forced to be equal to or greater than the height of the header cell, the bug is not triggered.  This can be done with an explicit <code>height</code> or with added top and bottom padding or by adding top and bottom margins to the paragraphs in the cell.</li>
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Some side tests I did indicate that the header cell is <em>not</em> needed to trigger the bug.  In other words, the problem could happen even if there are only data cells in the row.  Furthermore, I found that the width-scaling was directly affected by the <code>width</code> of the wrapping <code>div</code>, and thus the widths were doubling only because I had the <code>div</code>&#8217;s <code>width</code> set to <code>200%</code>.  If I set it to <code>150%</code> instead of <code>200%</code>, then the paragraphs only got half again as wide instead of doubling.  That seems to make sense until you see it in action.  When I say the paragraphs got half again as wide, I mean that instead of being 75% as wide as the <code>div</code>, they were 112.5% as wide as the <code>div</code>.  If I set the <code>div</code>&#8217;s <code>width</code> to <code>200%</code>, then they were 150% the width of the <code>div</code>.
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So.  As I say, this bug does not affect IE8, so that&#8217;s good, and it can be worked around in IE6 and IE7, which is even better.  The problem would be if you didn&#8217;t know how tall your cells might get&#8212;in my case, I can be (reasonably) sure that the tallest a cell&#8217;s content will ever get is two lines of text, and by setting an explicit <code>line-height</code> on the headers I can know how tall I have to make the rows in order to avoid the bug.
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Another day, another workaround!
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<li><a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/project-omnivore-declassified/" title="January 27 | Sounds like quite a feat.  But I wonder how we&#8217;d feel if Microsoft or Google announced the same kind of thing on their e-mail services.">MailChimp&#8217;s Project Omnivore: Declassified</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/25/carolyn-maloney/congresswoman-says-democratic-presidents-create-mo/" title="January 26 | &#8220;Obviously, luck matters a lot, but when there is a consistent pattern over more than 60 years, it starts to look like more than just luck.&#8221;">Congresswoman says Democratic presidents create more private-sector jobs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make.html" title="January 25 | Truth.">Taylor Mali: What teachers make</a></li>
<li><a href="http://notebook.johnmartz.com/how-websites-work?c=1" title="January 22 | At last, the truth is out and I can stop pretending:  beatific monkeys are what makes it all go.">How websites work</a></li>
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