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		<title>By: CSS resets: what are they and why do i need one?</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-1183574</link>
		<dc:creator>CSS resets: what are they and why do i need one?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Eric Meyer&#8217;s Most Recent Reset and his Original Reset [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Links from the “Creating an Accessible Layout” Webinar &#124; JTF Associates, Inc.</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-721778</link>
		<dc:creator>Links from the “Creating an Accessible Layout” Webinar &#124; JTF Associates, Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Meyer&#8217;s original Reset CSS and Reset CSS [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Stoffb</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-710441</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoffb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, thanks for the upgrade.
Is there a minified version available too by any chance?
Many thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the upgrade.<br />
Is there a minified version available too by any chance?<br />
Many thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ingredients of a website - Redfish Bluefish Media</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-709786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingredients of a website - Redfish Bluefish Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is our home-baked WordPress framework, which includes the 960.gs system, a modified version of the Meyer CSS Reset, and much more. Importantly, it also includes a custom options panel which we use on every site to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Designing Applications With Web Standards &#8211; or, HTML is the API &#8211; Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-661883</link>
		<dc:creator>Designing Applications With Web Standards &#8211; or, HTML is the API &#8211; Jeffrey Zeldman Presents The Daily Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] CSS Reset, Eric Meyer, v 2.0b1, January 2011 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: How To Use a CSS Reset &#124; Flarnie Marchán</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-594799</link>
		<dc:creator>How To Use a CSS Reset &#124; Flarnie Marchán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you&#8217;re in a hurry, just grab the latest version of Eric Meyer&#8217;s CSS Reset, it&#8217;s considered a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Cross-Browser CSS Development Workflow &#124; Impressive Webs</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-593635</link>
		<dc:creator>Cross-Browser CSS Development Workflow &#124; Impressive Webs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Eric Meyer&#8217;s most recent CSS reset. If you&#8217;re hesitant to use something that the author himself has labelled &#8220;a work in [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: HTML5 Boilerplate and why you should give it a try &#124; Stefano Restaino - Front End Web Developer Portfolio &#38; Blog</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-580575</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML5 Boilerplate and why you should give it a try &#124; Stefano Restaino - Front End Web Developer Portfolio &#38; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] makes it more of a powerful tool in comparison to a reset stylesheet, such as the popular &#8216;Reset Revisited&#8216; created by Eric Meyer and HTML5 Doctor Reset Stylesheet. Whilst a reset stylesheet will [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: reevolver</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-573374</link>
		<dc:creator>reevolver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rewheeling is the painful symptom. Abstraction the solution, but not in isolation. CSS * Browser render engines * Devices- seems an infintly intractable problem. Standards by adoption isn&#039;t working. What a mess, what to do?

Display should not be the defining advantage of browsers. CSS for all its easy entry point is awful as a language paradim. All inheritance no compositon and massive repetition, rigidity and fragility.

The way forward? 10 more years of pain. Browser inconsistencies seem to be lessening, but the only force driving this is developer pain. sorry but thats not a good enough reason. we need to design, develop, broker and drive a better solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rewheeling is the painful symptom. Abstraction the solution, but not in isolation. CSS * Browser render engines * Devices- seems an infintly intractable problem. Standards by adoption isn&#8217;t working. What a mess, what to do?</p>
<p>Display should not be the defining advantage of browsers. CSS for all its easy entry point is awful as a language paradim. All inheritance no compositon and massive repetition, rigidity and fragility.</p>
<p>The way forward? 10 more years of pain. Browser inconsistencies seem to be lessening, but the only force driving this is developer pain. sorry but thats not a good enough reason. we need to design, develop, broker and drive a better solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-571116</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if browsers granted a performance benefit to pages with a certain META tag that prevented any browser style from being applied in the first place? Such a &quot;no set&quot; tag would leave the slate clean in a way equivalent to a nice, vigorous reset.

I half expect to be told this kind of setup is in progress somewhere...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if browsers granted a performance benefit to pages with a certain META tag that prevented any browser style from being applied in the first place? Such a &#8220;no set&#8221; tag would leave the slate clean in a way equivalent to a nice, vigorous reset.</p>
<p>I half expect to be told this kind of setup is in progress somewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: escoles</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-568845</link>
		<dc:creator>escoles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may be able to let font go, but we see it enough (mostly in pasted Word text) that we can&#039;t. Easy enough to add, though. 

comments on &lt;i&gt; and &lt;b&gt; are well-taken, also: The first thing I have to do with a reset is to get rid of the &lt;code&gt;weight: normal&lt;/code&gt; reset on those, since (again) we see them all the time in code pasted from Word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be able to let font go, but we see it enough (mostly in pasted Word text) that we can&#8217;t. Easy enough to add, though. </p>
<p>comments on &lt;i&gt; and &lt;b&gt; are well-taken, also: The first thing I have to do with a reset is to get rid of the <code>weight: normal</code> reset on those, since (again) we see them all the time in code pasted from Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Samec</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-568703</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Samec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Eric, the reset is really a useful thing, I especially like the &lt;code&gt;font:inherit&lt;/code&gt; trick.
However, I want to point out a bug in IE that is somewhat relevant to the reset. The problem is that &lt;code&gt;font-size:100%&lt;/code&gt; set on each element kicks off a chain reaction of how the size of &lt;code&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&#039;s or &lt;code&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&#039;s descendants is determined. This is solved by IE8&#039;s &lt;code&gt;font:inherit&lt;/code&gt; support, but still affects the older versions. I have &lt;a href=&quot;http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6804383/relative-font-size-of-sub-or-sup-and-their-descendants-in-ie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;described the bug more here&lt;/a&gt;. But maybe now is the time when IE7 should be slowly burried next to IE6.

To my next point, is there something more behind the reason why margin, padding and borders are also being reset on inline elements (&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524855&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-524700&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grant Husbands&lt;/a&gt; have already touched the topic), or it just hold the line with the others insuring that everything is in a plain baseline?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Eric, the reset is really a useful thing, I especially like the <code>font:inherit</code> trick.<br />
However, I want to point out a bug in IE that is somewhat relevant to the reset. The problem is that <code>font-size:100%</code> set on each element kicks off a chain reaction of how the size of <code>&lt;sup&gt;</code>&#8216;s or <code>&lt;sub&gt;</code>&#8216;s descendants is determined. This is solved by IE8&#8242;s <code>font:inherit</code> support, but still affects the older versions. I have <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6804383/relative-font-size-of-sub-or-sup-and-their-descendants-in-ie" rel="nofollow">described the bug more here</a>. But maybe now is the time when IE7 should be slowly burried next to IE6.</p>
<p>To my next point, is there something more behind the reason why margin, padding and borders are also being reset on inline elements (<a href="#comment-524855" rel="nofollow">Scott</a> and <a href="#comment-524700" rel="nofollow">Grant Husbands</a> have already touched the topic), or it just hold the line with the others insuring that everything is in a plain baseline?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-563343</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s one more for you to ponder about:

&lt;code&gt;select, input, textarea {
    -webkit-box-sizing: border-box;
    -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
    box-sizing: border-box;
}&lt;/code&gt;

Select elements use the content-box in pretty much every browser. That&#039;s why they never actually have the same size as the other elements, even if all have the same dimensions set. I also found a bug report from Firefox for this problem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562153

The code works from IE8 and up and all other major browsers, according to PPK: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one more for you to ponder about:</p>
<p><code>select, input, textarea {<br />
    -webkit-box-sizing: border-box;<br />
    -moz-box-sizing: border-box;<br />
    box-sizing: border-box;<br />
}</code></p>
<p>Select elements use the content-box in pretty much every browser. That&#8217;s why they never actually have the same size as the other elements, even if all have the same dimensions set. I also found a bug report from Firefox for this problem: <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562153" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562153</a></p>
<p>The code works from IE8 and up and all other major browsers, according to PPK: <a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: HTML5 &#8220;ecard&#8221; &#124; Pedro Albea</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-562144</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML5 &#8220;ecard&#8221; &#124; Pedro Albea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] because everybody seems to be using jQuery these days, modernizr for IE, and a full blown CSS Reset.  You basically can just chop off what you don&#8217;t need and get to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Paul D. Waite</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/01/03/reset-revisited/#comment-560216</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D. Waite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-526358&quot;&gt;“I will assure whoever that the reasons for using resets are gradually disappearing.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That depends on the reasons people have for using them though, doesn’t it?

Personally, I use a reset just because it forces me to deliberately think about every style that I’m applying to the site. I find doing that makes my code, and my design, better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#comment-526358"><p>“I will assure whoever that the reasons for using resets are gradually disappearing.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That depends on the reasons people have for using them though, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>Personally, I use a reset just because it forces me to deliberately think about every style that I’m applying to the site. I find doing that makes my code, and my design, better.</p>
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