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		<title>By: t</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-723925</link>
		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, isn&#039;t Internet Explorer 9 earlier than Firefox 4 to support box-shadows, in unprefixed forms? I don&#039;t really know, but now even unprefixed gradients are supported!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, isn&#8217;t Internet Explorer 9 earlier than Firefox 4 to support box-shadows, in unprefixed forms? I don&#8217;t really know, but now even unprefixed gradients are supported!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-690811</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was always the direction we were seeking, Bahis.  The key to prefixes was the eventual dropping of prefixes, once implementations became interoperable.  Prefixes were meant to make it much easier to get to that final state without getting painted into a corner along the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was always the direction we were seeking, Bahis.  The key to prefixes was the eventual dropping of prefixes, once implementations became interoperable.  Prefixes were meant to make it much easier to get to that final state without getting painted into a corner along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bahis</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-690170</link>
		<dc:creator>Bahis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been using vendor prefixes for a few years now and I&#039;m definitely glad to see the latest versions of browsers accepting &quot;border-radius,&quot; for example, without a prefix. This needs to be the direction we continue to seek if we want to uphold web standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using vendor prefixes for a few years now and I&#8217;m definitely glad to see the latest versions of browsers accepting &#8220;border-radius,&#8221; for example, without a prefix. This needs to be the direction we continue to seek if we want to uphold web standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Testing for website compatibility in Firefox on Android &#124; Aaron Train</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-654309</link>
		<dc:creator>Testing for website compatibility in Firefox on Android &#124; Aaron Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and what to do moving forward. There are plenty of interesting and relevant posts out there as of recent with varied proposals and potential solutions. This posting is focused on some of the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and what to do moving forward. There are plenty of interesting and relevant posts out there as of recent with varied proposals and potential solutions. This posting is focused on some of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The -webkit- Controversy &#124; zarjay.net</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-646022</link>
		<dc:creator>The -webkit- Controversy &#124; zarjay.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 05:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] developers to take action. All my favorite web gurus are voicing their opinions (Peter-Paul Koch, Eric Meyer, Remy Sharp). And there&#8217;s enough dramatic headlines to go [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] developers to take action. All my favorite web gurus are voicing their opinions (Peter-Paul Koch, Eric Meyer, Remy Sharp). And there&#8217;s enough dramatic headlines to go [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ten interesting things I read this week &#171; &#171; Jeffrey Sambells Jeffrey Sambells</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-643410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten interesting things I read this week &#171; &#171; Jeffrey Sambells Jeffrey Sambells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Unfixed [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: TL;DR on Vendor Prefix Drama &#171; JoinOG</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-641379</link>
		<dc:creator>TL;DR on Vendor Prefix Drama &#171; JoinOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Meyer is pretty sure we aren&#8217;t going to win this [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Chris Coleman</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-641020</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my modest proposal. I like this whole &quot;experiential&quot; prefix idea, so I&#039;m going to run with that.

A browser should support three formats: -x-, -vendor-, and the unprefixed version.

-x- support would be interchangeable with -vendor-, making -vendor- necessary only when the syntax differs for the vendor (gradients being the poster child here). So for almost every property, it would only be necessary to specify -x-property: 5px; property: 5px; If Firefox&#039;s support differed, you would add the appropriate -moz- property (probably first, so that -x- could supersede it when Firefox catches up.

Since -x- doesn&#039;t exist, this might be more of a &quot;going forward&quot; fix rather than cleaning up anybody&#039;s current mess. For this to really work, it would be important to un-prefix as many current properties as possible (and be faster about un-prefixing new ones as they come along). That way, -x- would really be for newer, experimental properties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my modest proposal. I like this whole &#8220;experiential&#8221; prefix idea, so I&#8217;m going to run with that.</p>
<p>A browser should support three formats: -x-, -vendor-, and the unprefixed version.</p>
<p>-x- support would be interchangeable with -vendor-, making -vendor- necessary only when the syntax differs for the vendor (gradients being the poster child here). So for almost every property, it would only be necessary to specify -x-property: 5px; property: 5px; If Firefox&#8217;s support differed, you would add the appropriate -moz- property (probably first, so that -x- could supersede it when Firefox catches up.</p>
<p>Since -x- doesn&#8217;t exist, this might be more of a &#8220;going forward&#8221; fix rather than cleaning up anybody&#8217;s current mess. For this to really work, it would be important to un-prefix as many current properties as possible (and be faster about un-prefixing new ones as they come along). That way, -x- would really be for newer, experimental properties.</p>
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		<title>By: Browser vendors suggest supporting -webkit CSS prefixes &#171; Netlight on Web</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640481</link>
		<dc:creator>Browser vendors suggest supporting -webkit CSS prefixes &#171; Netlight on Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Eric Meyer: Unfixed [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Die Sache mit den vendor-prefixes &#171; F-LOG-GE</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640253</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Sache mit den vendor-prefixes &#171; F-LOG-GE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] unfixed [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Evan Mullins</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640246</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great presentation Eric, it&#039;s a shame to see much of it outdated almost instantly.

I wanted to make a comment, but kept thinking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://remysharp.com/2012/02/09/vendor-prefixes-about-to-go-south/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Remy Sharps post http://remysharp.com/2012/02/09/vendor-prefixes-about-to-go-south&lt;/a&gt; I think the section detailing &lt;strong&gt;Who&#039;s guilty is telling&lt;/strong&gt;. 

Here&#039;s hoping for the best]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great presentation Eric, it&#8217;s a shame to see much of it outdated almost instantly.</p>
<p>I wanted to make a comment, but kept thinking of <a href="http://remysharp.com/2012/02/09/vendor-prefixes-about-to-go-south/" rel="nofollow">Remy Sharps post </a><a href="http://remysharp.com/2012/02/09/vendor-prefixes-about-to-go-south" rel="nofollow">http://remysharp.com/2012/02/09/vendor-prefixes-about-to-go-south</a> I think the section detailing <strong>Who&#8217;s guilty is telling</strong>. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping for the best</p>
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		<title>By: TL;DR on Vendor Prefix Drama &#124; Transition Timing</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640244</link>
		<dc:creator>TL;DR on Vendor Prefix Drama &#124; Transition Timing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Meyer is pretty sure we aren&#8217;t going to win this [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: jive</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640209</link>
		<dc:creator>jive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best example given in those W3C minutes:

that once vendor extensions are implemented in other browsers we are stuck with them forever, just like the User Agent string

That&#039;s a paraphrase, but it was a great example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best example given in those W3C minutes:</p>
<p>that once vendor extensions are implemented in other browsers we are stuck with them forever, just like the User Agent string</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a paraphrase, but it was a great example.</p>
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		<title>By: JulienW</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-640085</link>
		<dc:creator>JulienW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Milo: Problem is: properties defined by a browser are not _really_ defined. For example, I defy you finding the specification for Webkit&#039;s early gradient syntax. You won&#039;t find anything complete.

Therefore, it&#039;s very difficult for a browser to implement properties found in another browser, even if it is open source. See how the .doc format took ages to be supported by Open Office (granted, Word is not open source).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Milo: Problem is: properties defined by a browser are not _really_ defined. For example, I defy you finding the specification for Webkit&#8217;s early gradient syntax. You won&#8217;t find anything complete.</p>
<p>Therefore, it&#8217;s very difficult for a browser to implement properties found in another browser, even if it is open source. See how the .doc format took ages to be supported by Open Office (granted, Word is not open source).</p>
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		<title>By: CSSquirrel : Vindaloo Fart &#124; opinions and news on web design by Kyle Weems</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/02/09/unfixed/#comment-639955</link>
		<dc:creator>CSSquirrel : Vindaloo Fart &#124; opinions and news on web design by Kyle Weems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] And please read Eric Meyer&#8217;s pessimistic, but perhaps realistic, assessment of the issue in Unfixed. [...]]]></description>
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