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	<title>Comments for Thoughts From Eric</title>
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	<description>Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it&#039;s largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Priit Pirita</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-680534</link>
		<dc:creator>Priit Pirita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 19:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About that sort - do all at once is one solution:

		sorter.sort(function(a,b){
			var x = a.red - b.red;
			if ( x === 0 ) {
				var y = a.green - b.green; 
				if ( y === 0 ) {
					return a.blue - b.blue;
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					return y;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About that sort &#8211; do all at once is one solution:</p>
<p>		sorter.sort(function(a,b){<br />
			var x = a.red &#8211; b.red;<br />
			if ( x === 0 ) {<br />
				var y = a.green &#8211; b.green;<br />
				if ( y === 0 ) {<br />
					return a.blue &#8211; b.blue;<br />
				} else {<br />
					return y;<br />
				}<br />
			} else {<br />
				return x;<br />
			}<br />
		});</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Lydia</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-680202</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 11:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeps getting better, Eric. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeps getting better, Eric. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-680051</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 05:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mt (and anyone else interested): I’ve added sorting to the Keyword, Decimal RGB, and HSL columns.  The HSL sort order is hue, then saturation, then lightness.  I know, thoroughly unoriginal, but it was the least awful of the many permutations I tried.  Similarly, the RGB sort is red-then-green-then-blue, which seems no better or worse than the others I tried.

If anyone has suggestions for interesting sort patterns, let me know, but do be specific.

I’ll update the post tomorrow to mention the new features, but for now I must sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mt (and anyone else interested): I’ve added sorting to the Keyword, Decimal RGB, and HSL columns.  The HSL sort order is hue, then saturation, then lightness.  I know, thoroughly unoriginal, but it was the least awful of the many permutations I tried.  Similarly, the RGB sort is red-then-green-then-blue, which seems no better or worse than the others I tried.</p>
<p>If anyone has suggestions for interesting sort patterns, let me know, but do be specific.</p>
<p>I’ll update the post tomorrow to mention the new features, but for now I must sleep.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Backgrounds, Shadows, Fonts, and the Cascade by Some links for light reading (25/5/12) &#124; Max Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some links for light reading (25/5/12) &#124; Max Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Backgrounds, Shadows, Fonts, and the Cascade [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by mt</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-679786</link>
		<dc:creator>mt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 19:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric (#4):

You know, that&#039;s an excellent question. Two-dimensional vectors are easy to tabulate and sort in screenspace. Three-dimensional ones, less so.... I personally don&#039;t have a preference as to sort order. Would it be possible to have the user specify the sort order?

Also -- and this may be too involved to code just for kicks as you have with this table -- what about a color picker style dialog with sliders or even just numbers that would give the closest color keyword match to a particular RGB/HSL combination? I figure something like that would involve some ugly JavaScript, though. Eesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric (#4):</p>
<p>You know, that&#8217;s an excellent question. Two-dimensional vectors are easy to tabulate and sort in screenspace. Three-dimensional ones, less so&#8230;. I personally don&#8217;t have a preference as to sort order. Would it be possible to have the user specify the sort order?</p>
<p>Also &#8212; and this may be too involved to code just for kicks as you have with this table &#8212; what about a color picker style dialog with sliders or even just numbers that would give the closest color keyword match to a particular RGB/HSL combination? I figure something like that would involve some ugly JavaScript, though. Eesh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Defining ‘ch’ by Smylers</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/15/defining-ch/#comment-679303</link>
		<dc:creator>Smylers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 07:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Hudson:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I presume CSS defines ‘ch’ in terms of the width of the zero glyph arbitrarily ... Personally, I can’t see any use for ‘ch’ outside of the context of a monospaced font though&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are several variable-width typefaces in which the digits 0 to 9 all have the same width as each other, so this could be useful in laying out numerical data in many fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hudson:</p>
<blockquote><p>I presume CSS defines ‘ch’ in terms of the width of the zero glyph arbitrarily &#8230; Personally, I can’t see any use for ‘ch’ outside of the context of a monospaced font though</p></blockquote>
<p>There are several variable-width typefaces in which the digits 0 to 9 all have the same width as each other, so this could be useful in laying out numerical data in many fonts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boy Howdy! by Charles Stepp</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/04/18/boy-howdy/#comment-679210</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Stepp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 01:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOW, do ya&#039;ll miss me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW, do ya&#8217;ll miss me?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Defining ‘ch’ by Antonio Cavedoni</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/15/defining-ch/#comment-678283</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Cavedoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don’t just want to go by Wikipedia, another document that mentions the term “advance width” is &lt;a href=&quot;https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TTRefMan/RM06/Chap6hmtx.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the TrueType spec&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t just want to go by Wikipedia, another document that mentions the term “advance width” is <a href="https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TTRefMan/RM06/Chap6hmtx.html" rel="nofollow">the TrueType spec</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Defining ‘ch’ by John Hudson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/15/defining-ch/#comment-678277</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Advance measure&#039; = &#039;advance width&#039; = distance from the left sidebearing of a glyph to the right sidebearing of a glyph.

As Tab notes, this is most useful in dealing with monospaced, &#039;fixed width&#039; fonts, and I presume CSS defines &#039;ch&#039; in terms of the width of the zero glyph arbitrarily so that for any font -- at least, any font containing a glyph mapped to the zero character -- a &#039;ch&#039; value could be determined. Personally, I can&#039;t see any use for &#039;ch&#039; outside of the context of a monospaced font though, since outside of that context it doesn&#039;t relate to much in the design space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Advance measure&#8217; = &#8216;advance width&#8217; = distance from the left sidebearing of a glyph to the right sidebearing of a glyph.</p>
<p>As Tab notes, this is most useful in dealing with monospaced, &#8216;fixed width&#8217; fonts, and I presume CSS defines &#8216;ch&#8217; in terms of the width of the zero glyph arbitrarily so that for any font &#8212; at least, any font containing a glyph mapped to the zero character &#8212; a &#8216;ch&#8217; value could be determined. Personally, I can&#8217;t see any use for &#8216;ch&#8217; outside of the context of a monospaced font though, since outside of that context it doesn&#8217;t relate to much in the design space.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Defining ‘ch’ by Joe Clark</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/15/defining-ch/#comment-678122</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;code&gt;ch&lt;/code&gt; can also be used to produce a standard feature of typography that has been absent by definition all this time: Tab stops. Try laying out a screenplay without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><code>ch</code> can also be used to produce a standard feature of typography that has been absent by definition all this time: Tab stops. Try laying out a screenplay without them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-678041</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s not a browser quirk.  They’re the same color, but not the same keyword.  SVG took the X11 colors and internationalized a few of them, which are the ones you’re seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not a browser quirk.  They’re the same color, but not the same keyword.  SVG took the X11 colors and internationalized a few of them, which are the ones you’re seeing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Jim</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-677781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 12:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, this table will be very useful. But for some reason I&#039;m seeing doubles of some of the colors.

I viewed the page on FireFox 12 and Opera Mobile 12. I&#039;m assuming its a browser quirk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, this table will be very useful. But for some reason I&#8217;m seeing doubles of some of the colors.</p>
<p>I viewed the page on FireFox 12 and Opera Mobile 12. I&#8217;m assuming its a browser quirk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-677496</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 03:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look again, Jim.  Look closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look again, Jim.  Look closer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Jim</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-677395</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow and just wanted to mention I saw two instances for slategrey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow and just wanted to mention I saw two instances for slategrey</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Precise CSS3 Color Table by Eric A. Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/05/18/aprecise-css3-color-table/#comment-675546</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric A. Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s definitely on the to-do list, mt.  When sorting by hue, would you subsort by lightness then saturation, or the other way around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s definitely on the to-do list, mt.  When sorting by hue, would you subsort by lightness then saturation, or the other way around?</p>
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