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		<title>By: Content Management Your Way // Ordered List by Steve Smith</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-7899</link>
		<dc:creator>Content Management Your Way // Ordered List by Steve Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nt Management Your Way 	 			 				I just finished reading Eric Meyer&#8217;s post about his switch to Wordpress, and I thought I&#8217;d thro [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nt Management Your Way 	 			 				I just finished reading Eric Meyer&#8217;s post about his switch to WordPress, and I thought I&#8217;d thro [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyway, glad to know I&#039;m in good company. Now, if we can just get SmartyPants to power the typographic engine, and get someone to create WP-Amazon, I&#039;ll be all set.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

May all your wishes come true:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://manalang.com/archives/2004/06/23/wordpress-plugin-wp-amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WP-Amazon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://idly.org/category/geekery/wordpress/textile/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SmartyPants for WP&lt;/a&gt; (included with WP Textile 2.x.x)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway, glad to know I&#8217;m in good company. Now, if we can just get SmartyPants to power the typographic engine, and get someone to create WP-Amazon, I&#8217;ll be all set.</p></blockquote>
<p>May all your wishes come true:</p>
<p><a href="http://manalang.com/archives/2004/06/23/wordpress-plugin-wp-amazon" rel="nofollow">WP-Amazon</a><br />
<a href="http://idly.org/category/geekery/wordpress/textile/" rel="nofollow">SmartyPants for WP</a> (included with WP Textile 2.x.x)</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis Bellido</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Bellido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I had made the switch from MT to WordPress just a couple of days before and posted some of my comments about it on my own &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.ventanazul.com/weblog_en/archives_en/2004/06/14/completed-move-from-mt-to-wordpress/&#039;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;. Regards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I had made the switch from MT to WordPress just a couple of days before and posted some of my comments about it on my own <a href='http://www.ventanazul.com/weblog_en/archives_en/2004/06/14/completed-move-from-mt-to-wordpress/'>blog</a>. Regards!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis Bellido</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Bellido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I had made the switch from MT to WordPress just a couple of days before and posted some of my comments about it on my own &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.ventanazul.com/weblog_en/archives_en/2004/06/14/completed-move-from-mt-to-wordpress/&#039;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;. Regards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I had made the switch from MT to WordPress just a couple of days before and posted some of my comments about it on my own <a href='http://www.ventanazul.com/weblog_en/archives_en/2004/06/14/completed-move-from-mt-to-wordpress/'>blog</a>. Regards!</p>
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		<title>By: mBoszko</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>mBoszko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curiously enough, I&#039;m in the process of moving to WordPress from MT, but only after moving to MT from PostNuke (trying to do too much with it), and before that to PostNuke from b2-- which I liked best in the first place, but it looked like development had died. Little did I know that someday b2 would be reborn into the open-source WordPress.

Anyway, glad to know I&#039;m in good company. Now, if we can just get SmartyPants to power the typographic engine, and get someone to create WP-Amazon, I&#039;ll be all set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiously enough, I&#8217;m in the process of moving to WordPress from MT, but only after moving to MT from PostNuke (trying to do too much with it), and before that to PostNuke from b2&#8211; which I liked best in the first place, but it looked like development had died. Little did I know that someday b2 would be reborn into the open-source WordPress.</p>
<p>Anyway, glad to know I&#8217;m in good company. Now, if we can just get SmartyPants to power the typographic engine, and get someone to create WP-Amazon, I&#8217;ll be all set.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul G</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I usually save a static version of the page I want to edit, then turn around and upload the file to a non-public folder on my site, mainly so relative references stay intact.  Then I copy my stylesheet to the same folder and use Crimson Editor to make changes directly to the file on the server (gotta love Crimson Editor).  Once I&#039;m happy with the changes, I back up my old stylesheet and copy the new one back into the main folder.

Seth, as someone who uses XSLT on a semi-regular basis, I&#039;ll say that for basic stuff like sorting lists and reorganizing information, it&#039;s very easy, I think a casual dabbler could figure that out fairly easily. However, for more advanced transformations and filtering, it quickly turns into a headache and I&#039;ll ususally just write a C# program or a PHP script to do what I want, as that will often be faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I usually save a static version of the page I want to edit, then turn around and upload the file to a non-public folder on my site, mainly so relative references stay intact.  Then I copy my stylesheet to the same folder and use Crimson Editor to make changes directly to the file on the server (gotta love Crimson Editor).  Once I&#8217;m happy with the changes, I back up my old stylesheet and copy the new one back into the main folder.</p>
<p>Seth, as someone who uses XSLT on a semi-regular basis, I&#8217;ll say that for basic stuff like sorting lists and reorganizing information, it&#8217;s very easy, I think a casual dabbler could figure that out fairly easily. However, for more advanced transformations and filtering, it quickly turns into a headache and I&#8217;ll ususally just write a C# program or a PHP script to do what I want, as that will often be faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth: see the &lt;a href=&quot;/eric/faq.html&quot;&gt;meyerweb FAQ&lt;/a&gt; for an answer to the (X)HTML question.  As for XSLT-- it routinely made my head hurt.  Badly.  I don&#039;t know whether I would be considered a casual dabbler or not, but the stuff I did seemed difficult and clumsy, and I often found that even simple things became rather involved.  But that could just be me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth: see the <a href="/eric/faq.html">meyerweb FAQ</a> for an answer to the (X)HTML question.  As for XSLT&#8211; it routinely made my head hurt.  Badly.  I don&#8217;t know whether I would be considered a casual dabbler or not, but the stuff I did seemed difficult and clumsy, and I often found that even simple things became rather involved.  But that could just be me.</p>
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		<title>By: markku</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>markku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 19:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing, everyone starting to use WordPress these days is accused of switching from MT. It&#039;s like a huge swarm making a long overdue move to a new colony. :)

Regarding CSS and design changes: I test on my desktop, then upload to my host. Then see a mistake I should&#039;ve seen earlier, edit again, upload again... You know the drill. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing, everyone starting to use WordPress these days is accused of switching from MT. It&#8217;s like a huge swarm making a long overdue move to a new colony. :)</p>
<p>Regarding CSS and design changes: I test on my desktop, then upload to my host. Then see a mistake I should&#8217;ve seen earlier, edit again, upload again&#8230; You know the drill. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Thomas Rasmussen</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Thomas Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 14:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you prefer HTML to XHTML for your site? Also, is XSLT something one could dabble in fairly casually, or is it a rather involved process? Thanks! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you prefer HTML to XHTML for your site? Also, is XSLT something one could dabble in fairly casually, or is it a rather involved process? Thanks! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 12:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I&#039;m running MT, not WordPress, but the principle for a development area would work the same.  I have an Apache virtual host set up on my Mac (dead simple under OS X), which is running an install of MT identical to what&#039;s on my live web server.  I&#039;ve cloned the web directory structure to my localhost, too.  Any changes are fiddled with at the local level, and when I&#039;m ready I simply copy the templates, images, includes, etc. over to the live server.  This way I can feel out exactly how my tweaks run in a real-time server environment without jeopardizing my live site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I&#8217;m running MT, not WordPress, but the principle for a development area would work the same.  I have an Apache virtual host set up on my Mac (dead simple under OS X), which is running an install of MT identical to what&#8217;s on my live web server.  I&#8217;ve cloned the web directory structure to my localhost, too.  Any changes are fiddled with at the local level, and when I&#8217;m ready I simply copy the templates, images, includes, etc. over to the live server.  This way I can feel out exactly how my tweaks run in a real-time server environment without jeopardizing my live site.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An online demo for WordPress can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensourcecms.com/wordpress/&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;  Log in with username &#039;admin&#039; and password &#039;demo&#039;.

Now, I have a question for fellow WP users: do you maintain a &quot;development&quot; system to test changes to stylesheets and index.php?  Sometimes I find it hard to keep my development system in sync with my &quot;production&quot; system, especially when dealing with links.  How do people here test out new CSS and designs for WP before going live?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An online demo for WordPress can be found <a href="http://www.opensourcecms.com/wordpress/">here.</a>  Log in with username &#8216;admin&#8217; and password &#8216;demo&#8217;.</p>
<p>Now, I have a question for fellow WP users: do you maintain a &#8220;development&#8221; system to test changes to stylesheets and index.php?  Sometimes I find it hard to keep my development system in sync with my &#8220;production&#8221; system, especially when dealing with links.  How do people here test out new CSS and designs for WP before going live?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Eric,

I&#039;d like to second the comments from John Y. on Blosxom. For you and any of your readers who like to edit in BBEdit (or similar) Blosxom has the advantage of allowing you to save all of your posts in the a plain or marked-up text format locally or on a remote server using the file system to store and organize the data. It will spit-out RSS if you want. But plain text is so mobile between formats that there are minimal problems about mobility between HTML, PDF, LateX, word-processors etc.

In fact, I use the Textile markup format (which is *nearly* plain) and save directly from BBEdit to my website when I&#039;m ready to post... As simple as possible.

Best wishes,

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eric,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to second the comments from John Y. on Blosxom. For you and any of your readers who like to edit in BBEdit (or similar) Blosxom has the advantage of allowing you to save all of your posts in the a plain or marked-up text format locally or on a remote server using the file system to store and organize the data. It will spit-out RSS if you want. But plain text is so mobile between formats that there are minimal problems about mobility between HTML, PDF, LateX, word-processors etc.</p>
<p>In fact, I use the Textile markup format (which is *nearly* plain) and save directly from BBEdit to my website when I&#8217;m ready to post&#8230; As simple as possible.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: James Sumners</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sumners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2004 00:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. When you mentioned that you were migrating to a new system I wondered what you were doing before.

Personally, I just wrote everything from scratch and have implemented features as I have felt a need to have them. I just recently implemented searching and I think I have a possible reason for not wanting to use google. Using google to search a personal site removes the personal touch, which you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/02/21/seeing-whats-out-there/&quot; title=&quot;Seeing What&#039;s Out There&quot;&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt; about previously. Using your own search function you can integrate it in to the site and keep the personality intact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. When you mentioned that you were migrating to a new system I wondered what you were doing before.</p>
<p>Personally, I just wrote everything from scratch and have implemented features as I have felt a need to have them. I just recently implemented searching and I think I have a possible reason for not wanting to use google. Using google to search a personal site removes the personal touch, which you <a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/02/21/seeing-whats-out-there/" title="Seeing What's Out There">wrote</a> about previously. Using your own search function you can integrate it in to the site and keep the personality intact.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Greene</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how you aggregate feeds on your end, but if you use NetNewsWire Pro, you can post through it...  You can also post through Ecto.  In both you use the MoveableType API and set the blog ID to 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how you aggregate feeds on your end, but if you use NetNewsWire Pro, you can post through it&#8230;  You can also post through Ecto.  In both you use the MoveableType API and set the blog ID to 1.</p>
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		<title>By: John Y.</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/05/17/migration-patterns/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>John Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, there is one piece of blogging software (that I know of, at least) which allows you to compose in a text editor: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blosxom.com/&quot;&gt;Blosxom&lt;/a&gt;. Not my cup of tea, and I seriously doubt that you&#039;d switch over at this point, but for what it&#039;s worth you might want to take a look at it.

In short, you upload your post as a text file and it runs a perl script to smack the template around it. It&#039;s a little more complex than that, but it&#039;s the basics. Take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, there is one piece of blogging software (that I know of, at least) which allows you to compose in a text editor: <a href="http://blosxom.com/">Blosxom</a>. Not my cup of tea, and I seriously doubt that you&#8217;d switch over at this point, but for what it&#8217;s worth you might want to take a look at it.</p>
<p>In short, you upload your post as a text file and it runs a perl script to smack the template around it. It&#8217;s a little more complex than that, but it&#8217;s the basics. Take a look.</p>
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