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	<title>Comments on: S5 Update</title>
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		<title>By: Shane Graber</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4921</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Graber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI the folks over at Enfold Systems have created a S5 product for Plone :  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enfoldsystems.com/Products/Open/PloneS5&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.enfoldsystems.com/Products/Open/PloneS5&lt;/a&gt;

Shane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI the folks over at Enfold Systems have created a S5 product for Plone :  <a href="http://www.enfoldsystems.com/Products/Open/PloneS5" target="_blank">http://www.enfoldsystems.com/Products/Open/PloneS5</a></p>
<p>Shane</p>
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		<title>By: Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4854</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I created a module for Oddmuse that lets you view a specially formatted wiki page as an S5 presentation.  Take a look - &lt;a href=&quot;http://fletcher.freeshell.org/wiki/S5SlideShow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I created a module for Oddmuse that lets you view a specially formatted wiki page as an S5 presentation.  Take a look &#8211; <a href="http://fletcher.freeshell.org/wiki/S5SlideShow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4839</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 04:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;S5: Presentation Tool&lt;/strong&gt;
A presentation tool for your browser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>S5: Presentation Tool</strong><br />
A presentation tool for your browser</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4837</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote from this very post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Just please leave this post&#8217;s comment clear of bug reports or feature requests.  As of this writing, you can drop those on the &lt;a href=&quot;/eric/thoughts/2005/01/13/s5-11b3/&quot;&gt;S5 1.1b3 post&lt;/a&gt;, or else wait for the forthcoming post on 1.1b4. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote from this very post:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Just please leave this post&#8217;s comment clear of bug reports or feature requests.  As of this writing, you can drop those on the <a href="/eric/thoughts/2005/01/13/s5-11b3/">S5 1.1b3 post</a>, or else wait for the forthcoming post on 1.1b4.
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<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Liggitt</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Liggitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen several &quot;feature request&quot; comments recently. Things like the timer, a splash screen, deplaying movies/animated gifs until the slide displays, etc. It seems like these (while desired, I&#039;m sure) were not the original intent of S5. 

When you move beyond simple presentation (dynamic scaling, header/footer layout) and navigation (page/subpage divisions, keyboard navigation, mouse navigation), and start adding timers, splash screens, etc, you&#039;re no longer really lightweight, which is the whole point of S5.

Maybe if there were a way to have base functionality, with a simple to add &quot;plugins&quot; that would implement these things for those who wanted it... hmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen several &#8220;feature request&#8221; comments recently. Things like the timer, a splash screen, deplaying movies/animated gifs until the slide displays, etc. It seems like these (while desired, I&#8217;m sure) were not the original intent of S5. </p>
<p>When you move beyond simple presentation (dynamic scaling, header/footer layout) and navigation (page/subpage divisions, keyboard navigation, mouse navigation), and start adding timers, splash screens, etc, you&#8217;re no longer really lightweight, which is the whole point of S5.</p>
<p>Maybe if there were a way to have base functionality, with a simple to add &#8220;plugins&#8221; that would implement these things for those who wanted it&#8230; hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry 'Pi' James</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4833</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry 'Pi' James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did my first S5 presentation a while ago, and it went pretty well (both the creation and the presentation part). What I really needed badly, however, was a stop watch to help me keeping my time. Obviously this is important for every presentation, and not a easy thing to do except for the real professionals. So why not implement this into S5? I have almost no knowledge about JavaScript, but I&#039;d take a wilde guess it&#039;s not to hard to implement.

I imagine an (optional) stop watch located somewhere in the footer area (unobtrusive of course) that starts counting automatically when the presentation starts, which is, when page 0 is left for the first time. Perhaps the display can even visually alert the user when the pre-defined presentation time is up, by turning to red for example.

I may not be the first to ask for this. Anyone wants to take the challenge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my first S5 presentation a while ago, and it went pretty well (both the creation and the presentation part). What I really needed badly, however, was a stop watch to help me keeping my time. Obviously this is important for every presentation, and not a easy thing to do except for the real professionals. So why not implement this into S5? I have almost no knowledge about JavaScript, but I&#8217;d take a wilde guess it&#8217;s not to hard to implement.</p>
<p>I imagine an (optional) stop watch located somewhere in the footer area (unobtrusive of course) that starts counting automatically when the presentation starts, which is, when page 0 is left for the first time. Perhaps the display can even visually alert the user when the pre-defined presentation time is up, by turning to red for example.</p>
<p>I may not be the first to ask for this. Anyone wants to take the challenge?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used S5 for my recent MacWorld presentation. I am waiting for 1.1 final to play with a Markdown derivative that would translate readable text to S5 and back again. Thanks for your work Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used S5 for my recent MacWorld presentation. I am waiting for 1.1 final to play with a Markdown derivative that would translate readable text to S5 and back again. Thanks for your work Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Serge K. Keller</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4828</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge K. Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a great tool! Since I began a French translation of S5, a friend of mine at the University of Fribourg (Switzerland) decided to push its use for the University&#039;s Philosophy Department presentations. This will probably happen in the summer semester, beginning sometime in February/March.

Indipendently, another collaborator at the same University &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.davidtouvet.com/blog/archives/2004/11/10/s5-simple-standards-based-slide-show-system-diaporama/&quot;&gt;discovered your tool&lt;/a&gt;, so your immortality in the memories of Swiss academic circles seems assured! ;o)

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a great tool! Since I began a French translation of S5, a friend of mine at the University of Fribourg (Switzerland) decided to push its use for the University&#8217;s Philosophy Department presentations. This will probably happen in the summer semester, beginning sometime in February/March.</p>
<p>Indipendently, another collaborator at the same University <a href="http://www.davidtouvet.com/blog/archives/2004/11/10/s5-simple-standards-based-slide-show-system-diaporama/">discovered your tool</a>, so your immortality in the memories of Swiss academic circles seems assured! ;o)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Carlson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4825</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main differences between SoapBX and S5 Presents is that S5 Presents is open-source so that you can download it and install it wherever you want. Take a look at http://s5presents.com/s5presents-1.0.tgz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main differences between SoapBX and S5 Presents is that S5 Presents is open-source so that you can download it and install it wherever you want. Take a look at <a href="http://s5presents.com/s5presents-1.0.tgz" rel="nofollow">http://s5presents.com/s5presents-1.0.tgz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon Willison</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4824</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Willison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave my &lt;a href=&quot;http://simon.incutio.com/slides/2005/bbc/&quot;&gt;first s5 presentation&lt;/a&gt; a few days ago and it went really well - s5 worked a treat! Top of my wishlist at the moment is integration with &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Clicker/&quot;&gt;Salling Clicker&lt;/a&gt; - I&#039;m tempted to learn AppleScript and fixing that myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave my <a href="http://simon.incutio.com/slides/2005/bbc/">first s5 presentation</a> a few days ago and it went really well &#8211; s5 worked a treat! Top of my wishlist at the moment is integration with <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Clicker/">Salling Clicker</a> &#8211; I&#8217;m tempted to learn AppleScript and fixing that myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Finney</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Finney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[fanboy]
Eric, S5 is a great tool and an excellent example of a simple foundation for others to build on; thanks for keeping us informed of the growing community around this neeat little chunk of code.  It&#039;s also damned useful in itself.
[/fanboy]

Have you considered putting S5 onto one of the free software project management sites (&lt;a href=&quot;http://savannah.nongnu.org/&quot;&gt;Savannah&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://gna.org/&quot;&gt;Gna&lt;/a&gt;, et al) so that you don&#039;t have to manually handle all the bug requests, discussion forums, revision control et cetera?  I&#039;d hate to see S5 stall as a victim of its own success because it because too much of a drain on your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[fanboy]<br />
Eric, S5 is a great tool and an excellent example of a simple foundation for others to build on; thanks for keeping us informed of the growing community around this neeat little chunk of code.  It&#8217;s also damned useful in itself.<br />
[/fanboy]</p>
<p>Have you considered putting S5 onto one of the free software project management sites (<a href="http://savannah.nongnu.org/">Savannah</a>, <a href="https://gna.org/">Gna</a>, et al) so that you don&#8217;t have to manually handle all the bug requests, discussion forums, revision control et cetera?  I&#8217;d hate to see S5 stall as a victim of its own success because it because too much of a drain on your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce D'Arcus</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4821</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce D'Arcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got the start of an S5 export plug-in for OmniOutliner 3 I just posted yesterday &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.users.muohio.edu/darcusb/files/S5.ooxsl.tar.gz&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

One problem I&#039;ve not quite figured out is how to handle the handoutcontent, which I&#039;m drawing from the outline note text, but which results in invalid XHTML code because the handout divs are mingled in some cases within the ul and li elements.  Nevertheless, I&#039;d like to keep the content associated with the proper level.  Any suggestions would be welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got the start of an S5 export plug-in for OmniOutliner 3 I just posted yesterday <a href="http://www.users.muohio.edu/darcusb/files/S5.ooxsl.tar.gz">here</a>. </p>
<p>One problem I&#8217;ve not quite figured out is how to handle the handoutcontent, which I&#8217;m drawing from the outline note text, but which results in invalid XHTML code because the handout divs are mingled in some cases within the ul and li elements.  Nevertheless, I&#8217;d like to keep the content associated with the proper level.  Any suggestions would be welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: schestowitz.com &#187; S5: Presentation Tool</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/#comment-4838</link>
		<dc:creator>schestowitz.com &#187; S5: Presentation Tool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sentations for a modern Web browser to interpret. The author, Eric Meyer, has incorporated &lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/&quot; title=&quot;S5 Update&quot;&gt;yet another improvement&lt;/a&gt;. At midday today I will present my work using S [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sentations for a modern Web browser to interpret. The author, Eric Meyer, has incorporated <a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/01/26/s5-update/" title="S5 Update">yet another improvement</a>. At midday today I will present my work using S [...]</p>
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