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		<title>By: Prem</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-6393</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a rapid way to jump from page 1 to another page without using the dropdown dialog. When I refresh the page, I find the dialog still very slow, it slows down my work especially when I have to preview each slide I create. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a rapid way to jump from page 1 to another page without using the dropdown dialog. When I refresh the page, I find the dialog still very slow, it slows down my work especially when I have to preview each slide I create. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any examples of s5 out there where the &quot;slide&quot; length is not cut off by the footer? I would think that many &quot;slide shows&quot; are going to have pictures and/or text that extend beyond the limitations of the default settings of s5, such that the Window scrollbar becomes necessary. 

I&#039;ve tried editing the css myself, but have been unable to come up with a solution. 

Any suggestions? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any examples of s5 out there where the &#8220;slide&#8221; length is not cut off by the footer? I would think that many &#8220;slide shows&#8221; are going to have pictures and/or text that extend beyond the limitations of the default settings of s5, such that the Window scrollbar becomes necessary. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried editing the css myself, but have been unable to come up with a solution. </p>
<p>Any suggestions? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabrix</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5192</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to write an XSL esporter from OpenOffice (1.x) Impress to html to use with s5. For now it handle text, title and subtitle, and unordered lists (with some problem...). Just for fun..
You can found it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://kirgroup.com/extra/sxi_to_s5.jar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://kirgroup.com/extra/sxi_to_s5.jar&lt;/a&gt;

To install: in OpenOffice, menu Tools-&gt;XML Filter Settings..-&gt;Open Package
To use: File-&gt;Export-&gt;File format: S5 xhtml presentation (.html)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to write an XSL esporter from OpenOffice (1.x) Impress to html to use with s5. For now it handle text, title and subtitle, and unordered lists (with some problem&#8230;). Just for fun..<br />
You can found it here: <a href="http://kirgroup.com/extra/sxi_to_s5.jar" rel="nofollow">http://kirgroup.com/extra/sxi_to_s5.jar</a></p>
<p>To install: in OpenOffice, menu Tools-&gt;XML Filter Settings..-&gt;Open Package<br />
To use: File-&gt;Export-&gt;File format: S5 xhtml presentation (.html)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Burnette</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Burnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW if you&#039;d like to see my S5 based presentation for EclipseCon view http://www.eclipsepowered.org/files/presentations/EclipseCon2005/ . It&#039;s a work in progress but should be finalized in a day or two. Still unreadable in IE or Safari 1.0.3 on the Mac but it works in the newer (and older) browsers I tried there. It would be nice if it could fall back to the outline view on unsupported platforms though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW if you&#8217;d like to see my S5 based presentation for EclipseCon view <a href="http://www.eclipsepowered.org/files/presentations/EclipseCon2005/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclipsepowered.org/files/presentations/EclipseCon2005/</a> . It&#8217;s a work in progress but should be finalized in a day or two. Still unreadable in IE or Safari 1.0.3 on the Mac but it works in the newer (and older) browsers I tried there. It would be nice if it could fall back to the outline view on unsupported platforms though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5138</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the final release of 1.1. I used this system in a presentation at work where accessibility is just becoming a buzzword people understand and at the end when I told them that this presentation was done in a single XHTML using CSS and JavaScript they seemed fairly impressed. 

I am hoping to be able to create a few more presentations using the system. The one feature I Would really like to have though is the ability to scroll up and down wtihin the given text of a slide. Is this possible or even feasible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the final release of 1.1. I used this system in a presentation at work where accessibility is just becoming a buzzword people understand and at the end when I told them that this presentation was done in a single XHTML using CSS and JavaScript they seemed fairly impressed. </p>
<p>I am hoping to be able to create a few more presentations using the system. The one feature I Would really like to have though is the ability to scroll up and down wtihin the given text of a slide. Is this possible or even feasible?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Burnette</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5136</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Burnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1.1b5 test bed shows up as blank in Safari under Mac OS 10.2.8. In IE  on the Mac I can see the first page but can&#039;t make it go to any other pages. Anybody else seeing this or know how to fix it? The 1.0 test bed has no problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1.1b5 test bed shows up as blank in Safari under Mac OS 10.2.8. In IE  on the Mac I can see the first page but can&#8217;t make it go to any other pages. Anybody else seeing this or know how to fix it? The 1.0 test bed has no problems.</p>
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		<title>By: David Winter</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5105</link>
		<dc:creator>David Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, very, very impressing work - again. I love S5 so much I recommend it to people who do not even have a computer ... :)

Unfortunately, the PNG fix doesn&quot;t seem to work in IE6/Win. The &quot;blank&quot; gif wasn&quot;t found, but even after copying it where it was supposed to be, PNGs were not shown at all. Pathes are correct, and they appear when dragged into the window, but not ihn the context of the page. This is odd.

Also, IE6 doesn&quot;t show the strings &quot;#&quot; and &quot;of&quot; for the page counter.

Apart from that, this is simply amazing work. I showed this it to a person who has been teaching PowerPoint for years. She literally screamed when she saw how much could be done with so little in terms of filesize and required knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, very, very impressing work &#8211; again. I love S5 so much I recommend it to people who do not even have a computer &#8230; :)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the PNG fix doesn&#8221;t seem to work in IE6/Win. The &#8220;blank&#8221; gif wasn&#8221;t found, but even after copying it where it was supposed to be, PNGs were not shown at all. Pathes are correct, and they appear when dragged into the window, but not ihn the context of the page. This is odd.</p>
<p>Also, IE6 doesn&#8221;t show the strings &#8220;#&#8221; and &#8220;of&#8221; for the page counter.</p>
<p>Apart from that, this is simply amazing work. I showed this it to a person who has been teaching PowerPoint for years. She literally screamed when she saw how much could be done with so little in terms of filesize and required knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5104</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus: I haven&#039;t had a chance to try your changes yet.  Sorry!  Things have been very, very hectic.

Blair: hopefully I&#039;ll get a look at your pre-loader after 1.1 is finished.  I did look at your example file but didn&#039;t see any pre-loading behavior; the slide show was unstyled until all the images had loaded.  Is there a preferred browser for seeing what you&#039;ve done?

Jeff: the warning is due to the presence of an IE/Win hack necessary to support alpha channels in PNGs.  The new version of the script writes it in dynamically, so validation shoudln&#039;t be affected.  (Unless the validator now raverses the DOM stylesheet, in which case there isn&#039;t much I can do.)  Also, I intentionally left off character encoding and lamguage information to avoid implying that there were required values (like en-US, which wouldn&#039;t work well for a German presentation) for those parameters.

Aaron: yikes!  And yet it makes some sense that things would happen that way.  I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s a fix, but I&#039;ll think about it in the post-1.1 stage.

Ed: that would most likely be due to a failure to load &#039;blank.gif&#039;.  I still haven&#039;t quite worked out how other files relate to the HTC, but hope I will get it all sorted out in the relatively near future.

Bruce: How does it not work on blockquote?

Also, no idea why a slideshow would fail on some systems and not others, except perhaps differences in security levels or proxy/firewall blocking.  None of which seems likely, but I can never be sure.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus: I haven&#8217;t had a chance to try your changes yet.  Sorry!  Things have been very, very hectic.</p>
<p>Blair: hopefully I&#8217;ll get a look at your pre-loader after 1.1 is finished.  I did look at your example file but didn&#8217;t see any pre-loading behavior; the slide show was unstyled until all the images had loaded.  Is there a preferred browser for seeing what you&#8217;ve done?</p>
<p>Jeff: the warning is due to the presence of an IE/Win hack necessary to support alpha channels in PNGs.  The new version of the script writes it in dynamically, so validation shoudln&#8217;t be affected.  (Unless the validator now raverses the DOM stylesheet, in which case there isn&#8217;t much I can do.)  Also, I intentionally left off character encoding and lamguage information to avoid implying that there were required values (like en-US, which wouldn&#8217;t work well for a German presentation) for those parameters.</p>
<p>Aaron: yikes!  And yet it makes some sense that things would happen that way.  I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;s a fix, but I&#8217;ll think about it in the post-1.1 stage.</p>
<p>Ed: that would most likely be due to a failure to load &#8216;blank.gif&#8217;.  I still haven&#8217;t quite worked out how other files relate to the HTC, but hope I will get it all sorted out in the relatively near future.</p>
<p>Bruce: How does it not work on blockquote?</p>
<p>Also, no idea why a slideshow would fail on some systems and not others, except perhaps differences in security levels or proxy/firewall blocking.  None of which seems likely, but I can never be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce D'Arcus</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5063</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce D'Arcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would be nice if the incremental class worked on blockquote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice if the incremental class worked on blockquote.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5029</link>
		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just lost everything I had writen in this box just because my e-mail address was misspelled. I quit.

Great tool but lousy comment system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just lost everything I had writen in this box just because my e-mail address was misspelled. I quit.</p>
<p>Great tool but lousy comment system.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Burnette</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5021</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Burnette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I run the 1.1b5 testbed on IE6 under Windows XP2, some of the slides show boxes with red-X&#039;s. For example, S5 Default File Structure, and Incremental Animation. They work ok on Firefox. I haven&#039;t applied any of the changes mentioned in the comments; are they supposed to fix this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I run the 1.1b5 testbed on IE6 under Windows XP2, some of the slides show boxes with red-X&#8217;s. For example, S5 Default File Structure, and Incremental Animation. They work ok on Firefox. I haven&#8217;t applied any of the changes mentioned in the comments; are they supposed to fix this?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5020</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem: Stylesheet Switcher extension for Firefox (0.2 I believe) causes CSS issues because it enables both the Slide and Outline CSS files (overriding the JS setting of the active sheet), causing conflicts and breaking the layout.The problem did not occur until I used the extension for the first time yesterday.

Solution: You can use the toggle (t) to switch to outline and back to slide mode, which sets the slides back to the way they should be viewed, but if you go to another tab and back to your presentation again, the layout is messed up again, so it is only a viable workaround if you are only going to be in your presentation. As I don&#039;t use it that often, I just decided to uninstall the extension and all is back to normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem: Stylesheet Switcher extension for Firefox (0.2 I believe) causes CSS issues because it enables both the Slide and Outline CSS files (overriding the JS setting of the active sheet), causing conflicts and breaking the layout.The problem did not occur until I used the extension for the first time yesterday.</p>
<p>Solution: You can use the toggle (t) to switch to outline and back to slide mode, which sets the slides back to the way they should be viewed, but if you go to another tab and back to your presentation again, the layout is messed up again, so it is only a viable workaround if you are only going to be in your presentation. As I don&#8217;t use it that often, I just decided to uninstall the extension and all is back to normal.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Turnbull</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-5018</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, I hate to nag, but I haven&#039;t received any acknowledgement of emails sent or any response to comments posted here.

Does the above approach for the .HTC activation work for you? Are you still interested in background images? Is 42 the meaning of life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, I hate to nag, but I haven&#8217;t received any acknowledgement of emails sent or any response to comments posted here.</p>
<p>Does the above approach for the .HTC activation work for you? Are you still interested in background images? Is 42 the meaning of life?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce D'Arcus</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce D'Arcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started using b3 in the context of a largish college lecture course. I put each lecture under access control, and students can access them to print out the outlines before class, and view them again after.

This has worked great for me (no problems in either Firefox or Safari) and the majority of students who are able to view them.  But I have gotten a number of random problems with display.  Some students (who seemed to be using IE 6) were getting completely blank pages.  Others (like one I heard from today) was getting the background image on Firefox, but no text content.

This is all with files that worked perfectly for me.  Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started using b3 in the context of a largish college lecture course. I put each lecture under access control, and students can access them to print out the outlines before class, and view them again after.</p>
<p>This has worked great for me (no problems in either Firefox or Safari) and the majority of students who are able to view them.  But I have gotten a number of random problems with display.  Some students (who seemed to be using IE 6) were getting completely blank pages.  Others (like one I heard from today) was getting the background image on Firefox, but no text content.</p>
<p>This is all with files that worked perfectly for me.  Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/02/03/s5-11b5/#comment-4968</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just created my first presentation using S5 and I it is a pretty smooth system... I did notice though when you validate the XHTML it only validates as Tentatively valid. 

I did a little digging and it seems there are some interestings issues or missing fragments of code in the zipped download.
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There is no characterset declared so it defaults to UTF-8. I fixed it by adding: &lt;meta http-equiv=&quot;Content-type&quot; content=&quot;text/html; charset=iso-8859-1&quot; /&gt; to the meta tags in the metadata section&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There is no content language specified. I fixed this one by adding the xml:lang=&quot;en-us&quot; to the line &lt;html xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot; xml:lang=&quot;en-us&quot;&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;One problem I am still having though is validating the CSS. I am using W3c&#039;s validator and I get the following Error: Line: 30 Context : img Property behavior doesn&#039;t exist : url(&#039;../includes/pngbehavior.htc&#039;) &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

How can I fix the CSS Error so that this warning goes away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just created my first presentation using S5 and I it is a pretty smooth system&#8230; I did notice though when you validate the XHTML it only validates as Tentatively valid. </p>
<p>I did a little digging and it seems there are some interestings issues or missing fragments of code in the zipped download.</p>
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<li>There is no characterset declared so it defaults to UTF-8. I fixed it by adding: &lt;meta http-equiv=&#8221;Content-type&#8221; content=&#8221;text/html; charset=iso-8859-1&#8243; /&gt; to the meta tags in the metadata section</li>
<li>There is no content language specified. I fixed this one by adding the xml:lang=&#8221;en-us&#8221; to the line &lt;html xmlns=&#8221;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&#8221; xml:lang=&#8221;en-us&#8221;&gt;</li>
<li>One problem I am still having though is validating the CSS. I am using W3c&#8217;s validator and I get the following Error: Line: 30 Context : img Property behavior doesn&#8217;t exist : url(&#8216;../includes/pngbehavior.htc&#8217;) </li>
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<p>How can I fix the CSS Error so that this warning goes away?</p>
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