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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-74442</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a bunch Jonas. I&#039;d been searching for the answer for this for over an hour before I stumbled here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a bunch Jonas. I&#8217;d been searching for the answer for this for over an hour before I stumbled here.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric,

sorry for douplepost, but i forgot that HTML is neccessery:

mysql meyerweb &lt; meyerweb20050309.sql.dump

Regrads,

Christian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,</p>
<p>sorry for douplepost, but i forgot that HTML is neccessery:</p>
<p>mysql meyerweb &lt; meyerweb20050309.sql.dump</p>
<p>Regrads,</p>
<p>Christian</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5558</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric,

try this:

mysql meyerweb </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,</p>
<p>try this:</p>
<p>mysql meyerweb</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Lin</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5419</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 00:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I am trying out the v11b5 version of S5 and noticed some odd behaviour. You can see two test versions I created to illustrate the oddities, both the same except that one uses the default theme, and another uses the i18n theme:

http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test.html
http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test1.html

The first problem is perhaps an unexpected case, where the first slide has an incremental list. The entire list is displayed immediately, though the &quot;next&quot; key still pages through each item.

The second problem occurs when an incremental list is the last slide in the presentation. After reaching the last item, pressing the &quot;next&quot; key starts displaying the same page from the beginning again, incrementally displaying each list items.

On a different note, &lt;a href=&quot;http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/04/lachys-back&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lachlan Hunt&#039;s most recent blog entry&lt;/a&gt; alluded to future changes in progress for S5, restructuring it to make it easy to extend. Can you comment on a roadmap for S5, if any exists? I am interested in enhancing S5 to better separate out themes; if the work is already underway then I would like to know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I am trying out the v11b5 version of S5 and noticed some odd behaviour. You can see two test versions I created to illustrate the oddities, both the same except that one uses the default theme, and another uses the i18n theme:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.carrotpatch.org/s5/test1.html</a></p>
<p>The first problem is perhaps an unexpected case, where the first slide has an incremental list. The entire list is displayed immediately, though the &#8220;next&#8221; key still pages through each item.</p>
<p>The second problem occurs when an incremental list is the last slide in the presentation. After reaching the last item, pressing the &#8220;next&#8221; key starts displaying the same page from the beginning again, incrementally displaying each list items.</p>
<p>On a different note, <a href="http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/04/lachys-back" rel="nofollow">Lachlan Hunt&#8217;s most recent blog entry</a> alluded to future changes in progress for S5, restructuring it to make it easy to extend. Can you comment on a roadmap for S5, if any exists? I am interested in enhancing S5 to better separate out themes; if the work is already underway then I would like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5248</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric,

I just read about your problems with importing a mysqldump file and if you happen to have access to Paul DuBois&#039; book &quot;MySQL Cookbook&quot; you will find on page 467 a discussion about NOT using mysqlimport on dump files. You should use a command like 
                    &#039;mysql [database] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,</p>
<p>I just read about your problems with importing a mysqldump file and if you happen to have access to Paul DuBois&#8217; book &#8220;MySQL Cookbook&#8221; you will find on page 467 a discussion about NOT using mysqlimport on dump files. You should use a command like<br />
                    &#8216;mysql [database]</p>
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		<title>By: Grugnog</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5229</link>
		<dc:creator>Grugnog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XP SP2 Firefox 1.0.1 + Adblock no jiggles - even on resizing.
There was a very minor flicker on the popup slide controler when you move from the next/forward buttons to the dropdown and vice versa. Maybe a spacer image link (to &quot;#&quot;) between them (rather than margins) would stop this?

I did have the problem that the return key gets &#039;hijacked&#039; which prevents me from browsing away from the slideshow (i.e. I type a URI, press return and it does not take me there). This only occurs when Adblock is enabled. An object focus conflict maybe?

S5 is really cool though!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XP SP2 Firefox 1.0.1 + Adblock no jiggles &#8211; even on resizing.<br />
There was a very minor flicker on the popup slide controler when you move from the next/forward buttons to the dropdown and vice versa. Maybe a spacer image link (to &#8220;#&#8221;) between them (rather than margins) would stop this?</p>
<p>I did have the problem that the return key gets &#8216;hijacked&#8217; which prevents me from browsing away from the slideshow (i.e. I type a URI, press return and it does not take me there). This only occurs when Adblock is enabled. An object focus conflict maybe?</p>
<p>S5 is really cool though!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5222</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus: I responded briefly in a comment back on the 1.1b5 post.  More details in a bit-- got to push Gatekeeper to the next version first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus: I responded briefly in a comment back on the 1.1b5 post.  More details in a bit&#8211; got to push Gatekeeper to the next version first.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5221</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use CocoaMySQL, which is a nice interface to MySQL.  The problem is that I didn&#039;t use it before upgrading, since I had the crazy idea that the databases would survive an upgrade of the software.  &lt;i&gt;C&#039;est la mort.&lt;/i&gt;

I did do a manual clean of the MySQL directories in /usr/local/ which is where the MySQL.com package installs stuff.  The problem I kept hitting was that the data directory was unwritable, which meant the initialization routines failed.  When I fiddled with the permissions on the data directory, things just got worse.  The socket would randomly fire up, but even when it did, I couldn&#039;t get the daemon to come up.  Use of the preference pane just seemed to make things worse; it would claim the process was running when I knew damned well it wasn&#039;t, thanks to Activity Monitor.

So I hunted around, found the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.serverlogistics.com/mysql.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Complete MySQL&lt;/a&gt; 4.0.21 package from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.serverlogistics.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Server Logistics&lt;/a&gt;, which installed smoothly.  It isn&#039;t quite as up to date as the 4.1.10 package I was trying to install from MySQL.com, but I&#039;ll take old and works over new and b0rked any day of the year.

It&#039;s possible that I missed some files scattered around the hard drive, but since these packages don&#039;t seem to come with UNinstall packages, it&#039;s hard to be sure.

At this point, though, I don&#039;t really care: I have an apparently stable MySQL installation, and thanks to comments I successfully imported the database, so I was able to test my update script last night and am ready to kick GK RC2 out the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use CocoaMySQL, which is a nice interface to MySQL.  The problem is that I didn&#8217;t use it before upgrading, since I had the crazy idea that the databases would survive an upgrade of the software.  <i>C&#8217;est la mort.</i></p>
<p>I did do a manual clean of the MySQL directories in /usr/local/ which is where the MySQL.com package installs stuff.  The problem I kept hitting was that the data directory was unwritable, which meant the initialization routines failed.  When I fiddled with the permissions on the data directory, things just got worse.  The socket would randomly fire up, but even when it did, I couldn&#8217;t get the daemon to come up.  Use of the preference pane just seemed to make things worse; it would claim the process was running when I knew damned well it wasn&#8217;t, thanks to Activity Monitor.</p>
<p>So I hunted around, found the <a href="http://www.serverlogistics.com/mysql.php" rel="nofollow">Complete MySQL</a> 4.0.21 package from <a href="http://www.serverlogistics.com/" rel="nofollow">Server Logistics</a>, which installed smoothly.  It isn&#8217;t quite as up to date as the 4.1.10 package I was trying to install from MySQL.com, but I&#8217;ll take old and works over new and b0rked any day of the year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that I missed some files scattered around the hard drive, but since these packages don&#8217;t seem to come with UNinstall packages, it&#8217;s hard to be sure.</p>
<p>At this point, though, I don&#8217;t really care: I have an apparently stable MySQL installation, and thanks to comments I successfully imported the database, so I was able to test my update script last night and am ready to kick GK RC2 out the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5220</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MySQL Administrator may solve your problems, though I&#039;m not sure if there&#039;s a version of OS-X, so you may need a spare windows/Linux box.  Or, you should be able to do it using the Virtual PC.  Anyway, you can do backups and restores with the tool.  I&#039;ve never had a problem with it, so it should work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MySQL Administrator may solve your problems, though I&#8217;m not sure if there&#8217;s a version of OS-X, so you may need a spare windows/Linux box.  Or, you should be able to do it using the Virtual PC.  Anyway, you can do backups and restores with the tool.  I&#8217;ve never had a problem with it, so it should work.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5218</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of curiosity, have you tried doing a full, manual clean-up of mysql from your system? Mysql uninstalls can leave rogue db files on your hard disk.  I once had many issues with mysql after an upgrade...The first thing I did was completely remove all references to it. Then I reinstalled the same version, and copied the db folders over manually...just a drag and drop...and was happily accessing my db as before.

I also ran into a permissions issue....where newest version of mysql used a different authentication type &amp; my password didn&#039;t work...

food for thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, have you tried doing a full, manual clean-up of mysql from your system? Mysql uninstalls can leave rogue db files on your hard disk.  I once had many issues with mysql after an upgrade&#8230;The first thing I did was completely remove all references to it. Then I reinstalled the same version, and copied the db folders over manually&#8230;just a drag and drop&#8230;and was happily accessing my db as before.</p>
<p>I also ran into a permissions issue&#8230;.where newest version of mysql used a different authentication type &amp; my password didn&#8217;t work&#8230;</p>
<p>food for thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Asquith</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5217</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my earlier comment - could find no jiggling with FF1.0.1 on Win2K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my earlier comment &#8211; could find no jiggling with FF1.0.1 on Win2K.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nelson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WindowsXP, 1280x1024, FF 1.01

No jiggling when the window is fullscreen, but a thin blue horizontal lazerline in the control area darkens/brightens

But if I resize the window, I start getting a noticable jiggling of that same line, vibrating up and down as I move the mouse in the control area. When I resize again to fullscreen, the lazerline maintains this up/down jiggling.

Question: why is the lazerline there? It&#039;s the only visual anomaly that I could find...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WindowsXP, 1280&#215;1024, FF 1.01</p>
<p>No jiggling when the window is fullscreen, but a thin blue horizontal lazerline in the control area darkens/brightens</p>
<p>But if I resize the window, I start getting a noticable jiggling of that same line, vibrating up and down as I move the mouse in the control area. When I resize again to fullscreen, the lazerline maintains this up/down jiggling.</p>
<p>Question: why is the lazerline there? It&#8217;s the only visual anomaly that I could find&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Turnbull</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5215</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Turnbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my scripting and CSS design exploits I&#039;ve noticed numerous line bugs in Firefox too, mostly horiztonal but some vertical too.

The problem is due to a rounding error I believe; it disappeared for me in my tests when I defined the size of fonts and linespacing in pixels, e.g. &quot;font: 12px/16px sans-serif&quot; or similar. Also, it occurred with much greater frequency when I combined with alpha opacity fading effects; this was in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twinhelix.com/dhtml/fsmenu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FreeStyle Menu&lt;/a&gt; script, which has subsequently had its example font sizes defined in pixels and fading animation disabled by default. No more problem.

So perhaps adjust your element sizing code to parseInt() its results and assign as pixels to the document. That should cure the problem!

P.S. How&#039;s the background PNG opacity behavior going? Did you ever get a chance to try that out? I posted a few times to the previous thread and emailed you once or twice to no avail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my scripting and CSS design exploits I&#8217;ve noticed numerous line bugs in Firefox too, mostly horiztonal but some vertical too.</p>
<p>The problem is due to a rounding error I believe; it disappeared for me in my tests when I defined the size of fonts and linespacing in pixels, e.g. &#8220;font: 12px/16px sans-serif&#8221; or similar. Also, it occurred with much greater frequency when I combined with alpha opacity fading effects; this was in my <a href="http://www.twinhelix.com/dhtml/fsmenu/" rel="nofollow">FreeStyle Menu</a> script, which has subsequently had its example font sizes defined in pixels and fading animation disabled by default. No more problem.</p>
<p>So perhaps adjust your element sizing code to parseInt() its results and assign as pixels to the document. That should cure the problem!</p>
<p>P.S. How&#8217;s the background PNG opacity behavior going? Did you ever get a chance to try that out? I posted a few times to the previous thread and emailed you once or twice to no avail.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Asquith</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5213</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be that VPC&#039;s message queue is handling the re-draw events differently than Windows normally would? I&#039;m speculating that the VPC must generate messages for OS X in response to, or based on, the messages that the virtual Win2K one running under it generates. Does this only happen on a resize or can it be coerced into happening constantly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be that VPC&#8217;s message queue is handling the re-draw events differently than Windows normally would? I&#8217;m speculating that the VPC must generate messages for OS X in response to, or based on, the messages that the virtual Win2K one running under it generates. Does this only happen on a resize or can it be coerced into happening constantly?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Duff</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/09/stuck/#comment-5212</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have xpsp2 with ff1.0.1 and no jiggling no matter what I do. Are you sure its not VPC creating this bug somehow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have xpsp2 with ff1.0.1 and no jiggling no matter what I do. Are you sure its not VPC creating this bug somehow?</p>
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