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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-68655</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have OSX.3.9 running on an iMac 233MHz with 160 MB of RAM.  It takes about 2 minutes to boot, but I only use it for web serving on occasion.  In fact, I&#039;m using it now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have OSX.3.9 running on an iMac 233MHz with 160 MB of RAM.  It takes about 2 minutes to boot, but I only use it for web serving on occasion.  In fact, I&#8217;m using it now!</p>
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		<title>By: claus dettelbacher</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5829</link>
		<dc:creator>claus dettelbacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody know, how I can motivate my 10.3-CD&#039;s to install it on a 266 Powerbook with 512Ram and 40 GB HD??

10.2.8 is running well - and now I need skype, which seems to be available only for 10.3.

There is a Software called Sonnet PCI X Installer. Is this useful? When I insert the CD1 and click on install 10.3, it says, that the installation is not possible on this computer...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know, how I can motivate my 10.3-CD&#8217;s to install it on a 266 Powerbook with 512Ram and 40 GB HD??</p>
<p>10.2.8 is running well &#8211; and now I need skype, which seems to be available only for 10.3.</p>
<p>There is a Software called Sonnet PCI X Installer. Is this useful? When I insert the CD1 and click on install 10.3, it says, that the installation is not possible on this computer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Melis</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5381</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Melis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running 10.3 on a G3/500/512 iMac, a bit sluggish due to the slower hdm but happily running...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running 10.3 on a G3/500/512 iMac, a bit sluggish due to the slower hdm but happily running&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Romain Lafourcade</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5354</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain Lafourcade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added a brand new 100+ Gb hard drive and a Radeon 9200 graphic card to my G4/400 PCI with 1 Gb of RAM. Now it&#039;s up to the task with Panther + Apache and PHP. Photoshop is really sluggish though.

If your graphic card doesn&#039;t support Quartz Extreme, I suggest you install PCI Extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added a brand new 100+ Gb hard drive and a Radeon 9200 graphic card to my G4/400 PCI with 1 Gb of RAM. Now it&#8217;s up to the task with Panther + Apache and PHP. Photoshop is really sluggish though.</p>
<p>If your graphic card doesn&#8217;t support Quartz Extreme, I suggest you install PCI Extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5311</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently running OS 10.3.8 on a 400mhz G3 iMac and 384M RAM, an 800mhz G3 iBook w/ 764M RAM, (and a G5 iMac too!).  I&#039;ve had no problems with any of these configurations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently running OS 10.3.8 on a 400mhz G3 iMac and 384M RAM, an 800mhz G3 iBook w/ 764M RAM, (and a G5 iMac too!).  I&#8217;ve had no problems with any of these configurations!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gruber</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5310</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gruber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Eric,

I sold my iBook and had to use a Blue and White G3 to tides me over until my PowerBook arrived. Anyways, this thing had 450Mhz and some 4XX (I can&#039;t remember) MB of RAM in it. It ran like a champ. I&#039;ve even seen OS X.3 run on a Wall Street PB with little lag. 

However, if you start up Virtual PC ... well, that&#039;s another story ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Eric,</p>
<p>I sold my iBook and had to use a Blue and White G3 to tides me over until my PowerBook arrived. Anyways, this thing had 450Mhz and some 4XX (I can&#8217;t remember) MB of RAM in it. It ran like a champ. I&#8217;ve even seen OS X.3 run on a Wall Street PB with little lag. </p>
<p>However, if you start up Virtual PC &#8230; well, that&#8217;s another story &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave J. Lowe</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5306</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave J. Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to the dogpile... I&#039;ve been running Panther on my blue and white tower (450 MHz G3) since it came out and every prior OS X version before that. Every update seems to make it faster, though I wish I had more RAM - 384 is the bare minimum I&#039;d advise. Still, I don&#039;t remember the last time it crashed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to the dogpile&#8230; I&#8217;ve been running Panther on my blue and white tower (450 MHz G3) since it came out and every prior OS X version before that. Every update seems to make it faster, though I wish I had more RAM &#8211; 384 is the bare minimum I&#8217;d advise. Still, I don&#8217;t remember the last time it crashed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Meitar</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5302</link>
		<dc:creator>Meitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to have to agree with my fellow commenters above. I actually run Panther (10.3.8) on an ancient iMac SE:DV. (That&#039;s a 400 MHz G3, though I&#039;ve upped the RAM to 384 MB a few years ago.)

No, it&#039;s not really that fast, so I don&#039;t like to load it up too bad. But I&#039;ve been using it steadily ever since Tiger was first released and, well, it&#039;s just great.

Apple rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to agree with my fellow commenters above. I actually run Panther (10.3.8) on an ancient iMac SE:DV. (That&#8217;s a 400 MHz G3, though I&#8217;ve upped the RAM to 384 MB a few years ago.)</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not really that fast, so I don&#8217;t like to load it up too bad. But I&#8217;ve been using it steadily ever since Tiger was first released and, well, it&#8217;s just great.</p>
<p>Apple rules.</p>
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		<title>By: hi</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5301</link>
		<dc:creator>hi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5300</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dual G4, 450Mhz, 640 Mb Ram is pretty good, including Classic.
First generation Ti book, 400Mhz, 384Mb Ram, 10Gb HD is a bit sluggish in Classic, but text editors, Apache, MySql do run fine. Not a speed demon anymore, mind you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dual G4, 450Mhz, 640 Mb Ram is pretty good, including Classic.<br />
First generation Ti book, 400Mhz, 384Mb Ram, 10Gb HD is a bit sluggish in Classic, but text editors, Apache, MySql do run fine. Not a speed demon anymore, mind you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Cowie</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5299</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Cowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A blue and white G3/300 with 192Mb and 10.2.8 handles the load as a development server and mac testbed in the office.  No speed demon but reliable.

My battered g4/550 powerbook with 512Mb and 10.3.7 is used for everything from photoshop to running Apache/PHP/MySQL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blue and white G3/300 with 192Mb and 10.2.8 handles the load as a development server and mac testbed in the office.  No speed demon but reliable.</p>
<p>My battered g4/550 powerbook with 512Mb and 10.3.7 is used for everything from photoshop to running Apache/PHP/MySQL.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mientjes</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5298</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mientjes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know for sure is that you need more RAM to run it properly, and maybe the video card isn&#039;t too spiffy... However, I was also quite surprised to see 10.3 run on a 400Mhz TiPB with 512 MBRAM. If it&#039;s just temporarily, you&#039;d do fine to use OS X, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know for sure is that you need more RAM to run it properly, and maybe the video card isn&#8217;t too spiffy&#8230; However, I was also quite surprised to see 10.3 run on a 400Mhz TiPB with 512 MBRAM. If it&#8217;s just temporarily, you&#8217;d do fine to use OS X, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny F</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5297</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s totally do-able. I have Panther 10.3.8 running on a 1998 Beige G3 Desktop 233mhz/576ram/6meg vram. While the screen draw time is slightly sluggish, the OS works just fine! Photoshop, BBedit, Apache server, Itunes, etc... (I used XPostFacto to facilitae the OSX install.)

But I don&#039;t have Virtual PC (6) on the machine so I don&#039;t know about that on such a slow G3 processor.

Generally quite satisfied with the above set-up as a home-based OSX system to compliment my 15&quot; Titanium Powerbook (867mhz) which is my main developement machine. (Thanks to Virtual PC with IE5.0, 5.5, 6.0 FF1.0.1, Opera 7 for PC browser compliance!)

Sorry to hear about your malfunctions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s totally do-able. I have Panther 10.3.8 running on a 1998 Beige G3 Desktop 233mhz/576ram/6meg vram. While the screen draw time is slightly sluggish, the OS works just fine! Photoshop, BBedit, Apache server, Itunes, etc&#8230; (I used XPostFacto to facilitae the OSX install.)</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t have Virtual PC (6) on the machine so I don&#8217;t know about that on such a slow G3 processor.</p>
<p>Generally quite satisfied with the above set-up as a home-based OSX system to compliment my 15&#8243; Titanium Powerbook (867mhz) which is my main developement machine. (Thanks to Virtual PC with IE5.0, 5.5, 6.0 FF1.0.1, Opera 7 for PC browser compliance!)</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your malfunctions.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Decryptor</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5296</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Decryptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed 10.3.3 on that exact same model i think.

Apart from not having Quartz Extreme, it&#039;s fine, there are some slowdowns when your opening apps, but nothing major.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed 10.3.3 on that exact same model i think.</p>
<p>Apart from not having Quartz Extreme, it&#8217;s fine, there are some slowdowns when your opening apps, but nothing major.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Neale</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/19/laptopless/#comment-5294</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Neale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running Jaguar [10.2.something] on Mac Cube - can be slow, especially compiling Mozilla browsers - does work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running Jaguar [10.2.something] on Mac Cube &#8211; can be slow, especially compiling Mozilla browsers &#8211; does work!</p>
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