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		<title>By: Michael Hickland</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-12251</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&quot;ve had a go at implementing this technique on a little voluntary site I maintain and it looks pretty good, up until I try to use a table of contents (ToC) or any other in page link.

The problem is that once I use the ToC the top of the page is sliced off and I am unable to scroll back to the top.

I&quot;m not sure whether this is a flaw in my design or whether it is a bug in IE6 and FireFox 1.0.7 but it is definitely a real pain.  I have also tried it in Opera 7.1 and it works fine.

The working page can be found here,

http://www.ousani.org.uk/ctr12.php

and a cut down test page can be found here,

http://www.carjen.co.uk/targettest.htm

An interesting point is that if I use the name attribute in an anchor tag, I still have the ability to use my mouse wheel to scroll back to the top of the page but if I use id then I cannot scroll up at all.

All advice welcome

Cheers :o)

Michael
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8221;ve had a go at implementing this technique on a little voluntary site I maintain and it looks pretty good, up until I try to use a table of contents (ToC) or any other in page link.</p>
<p>The problem is that once I use the ToC the top of the page is sliced off and I am unable to scroll back to the top.</p>
<p>I&#8221;m not sure whether this is a flaw in my design or whether it is a bug in IE6 and FireFox 1.0.7 but it is definitely a real pain.  I have also tried it in Opera 7.1 and it works fine.</p>
<p>The working page can be found here,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ousani.org.uk/ctr12.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.ousani.org.uk/ctr12.php</a></p>
<p>and a cut down test page can be found here,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carjen.co.uk/targettest.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.carjen.co.uk/targettest.htm</a></p>
<p>An interesting point is that if I use the name attribute in an anchor tag, I still have the ability to use my mouse wheel to scroll back to the top of the page but if I use id then I cannot scroll up at all.</p>
<p>All advice welcome</p>
<p>Cheers :o)</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Some links for light reading (13/11/05)</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-11641</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Some links for light reading (13/11/05)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for light reading (13/11/05)			 			 				November 13th, 2005			 				 	Any Order Columns 	Meyer on Any Order Columns 	More Meyer on Any Order Columns 	An Open Letter to Di [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for light reading (13/11/05)			</p>
<p> 				November 13th, 2005<br />
 				 	Any Order Columns 	Meyer on Any Order Columns 	More Meyer on Any Order Columns 	An Open Letter to Di [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam&#8217;s Design and Development Thoughts &#187; CSS Layout Tips</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-10222</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam&#8217;s Design and Development Thoughts &#187; CSS Layout Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one elegant tutorial and example. High quality reference material for all of us. (Hat-tip: Eric Meyer)   I agree withe the above comments, but it is a fairly complete look  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one elegant tutorial and example. High quality reference material for all of us. (Hat-tip: Eric Meyer)   I agree withe the above comments, but it is a fairly complete look  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bram</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8638</link>
		<dc:creator>Bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic, thank you for sharing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, thank you for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: torresburriel.com &#187; Lecturas sobre hojas de estilo y est</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8549</link>
		<dc:creator>torresburriel.com &#187; Lecturas sobre hojas de estilo y est</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no, el martillo del navegador de moda. 	 	Any Order Columns 	Meyer on Any Order Columns 	 	Layout Revolution 	Multi-Unit Any-Order Columns 	 	 	An Open Letter to Disney Sto [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no, el martillo del navegador de moda. 	 	Any Order Columns 	Meyer on Any Order Columns 	 	Layout Revolution 	Multi-Unit Any-Order Columns 	 	 	An Open Letter to Disney Sto [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Williams</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8492</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The firefox bug has been fixed in the newly released 1.5 RC2 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The firefox bug has been fixed in the newly released 1.5 RC2 :)</p>
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		<title>By: Small Paul</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8349</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only looked closely at the equal height columns thing, but I think it&#039;s freaking *genius*. I&#039;m using it on some navigation tabs, and it&#039;s quite beautiful (much less padding needed for those, as beyond about 4ems tall it isn&#039;t worth worrying about).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only looked closely at the equal height columns thing, but I think it&#8217;s freaking *genius*. I&#8217;m using it on some navigation tabs, and it&#8217;s quite beautiful (much less padding needed for those, as beyond about 4ems tall it isn&#8217;t worth worrying about).</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Henninger</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8247</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Henninger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 05:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I have to agree with you there. I just wish I could hear the conversation that Eric and Alex have probably had by now. After all, Alex did pretty much ruin a good chunk of what Eric was going to discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I have to agree with you there. I just wish I could hear the conversation that Eric and Alex have probably had by now. After all, Alex did pretty much ruin a good chunk of what Eric was going to discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: o [cc] do [caiocesar] na [www]</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8242</link>
		<dc:creator>o [cc] do [caiocesar] na [www]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 	 linques interessantes 	8.11.2005 &#124; 22:12 	 	 			- netvibes agora tem suporte ao flickr - a busca pelo &#8220;o layout&#8221; analisada pelo guru eric meyer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing him work his mojo live in Chicago I think it is still safe to say Eric is the the &quot;mojo-man.&quot; I was just amazed at how he put certain things together and the live walkthrough of the one true layout was just astounding.

I&#039;d definitely say I got my money&#039;s worth out of that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing him work his mojo live in Chicago I think it is still safe to say Eric is the the &#8220;mojo-man.&#8221; I was just amazed at how he put certain things together and the live walkthrough of the one true layout was just astounding.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d definitely say I got my money&#8217;s worth out of that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks promising.  It&#039;s my first reading of anything on the PIE site.  Frankly many of the CSS techniques take so much subtle hacking to make them do what you want on most of the browsers in use that I despair of using them other than experimentally.  

CSS was supposed to make it *easier* to do great visual things in browsers, right?  Browser incompatibilities have sure made a nightmare out of doing simple things.  

Just read something like their &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How To Clear Floats Without Structural Markup&lt;/a&gt;&quot; if you&#039;re feeling good about using CSS-p... it&#039;ll cure that feeling.  (or send you running back to html tables)

This comment isn&#039;t to denigrate the efforts of css gurus like you all, your work amazes me... just that all these complex hacks shouldn&#039;t be needed...  ok, yeah, it&#039;s not a perfect world... grumble, grumble... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks promising.  It&#8217;s my first reading of anything on the PIE site.  Frankly many of the CSS techniques take so much subtle hacking to make them do what you want on most of the browsers in use that I despair of using them other than experimentally.  </p>
<p>CSS was supposed to make it *easier* to do great visual things in browsers, right?  Browser incompatibilities have sure made a nightmare out of doing simple things.  </p>
<p>Just read something like their &#8220;<a href="http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html" rel="nofollow">How To Clear Floats Without Structural Markup</a>&#8221; if you&#8217;re feeling good about using CSS-p&#8230; it&#8217;ll cure that feeling.  (or send you running back to html tables)</p>
<p>This comment isn&#8217;t to denigrate the efforts of css gurus like you all, your work amazes me&#8230; just that all these complex hacks shouldn&#8217;t be needed&#8230;  ok, yeah, it&#8217;s not a perfect world&#8230; grumble, grumble&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Mullin</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8029</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Mullin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, Thanks for going through the &quot;One True Layout&quot; yesterday at the Carson Workshop. It was very interesting to see you work through the differnet aspects of the technique. It&#039;s not often you get the opportunity to see an expert go through their problem-solving methods.

During a break I asked you about a new text editor, TextMate, so I thought I&#039;d pass on the link [ http://macromates.com/ ] It&#039;s has some very nice features that haven&#039;t made it to BBEdit... yet.

Thanks again for a great workshop. - Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, Thanks for going through the &#8220;One True Layout&#8221; yesterday at the Carson Workshop. It was very interesting to see you work through the differnet aspects of the technique. It&#8217;s not often you get the opportunity to see an expert go through their problem-solving methods.</p>
<p>During a break I asked you about a new text editor, TextMate, so I thought I&#8217;d pass on the link [ <a href="http://macromates.com/" rel="nofollow">http://macromates.com/</a> ] It&#8217;s has some very nice features that haven&#8217;t made it to BBEdit&#8230; yet.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great workshop. &#8211; Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas M.</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-8013</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, at the Carson Workshop in Chicago, Eric went over this layout technique - it wasn&#039;t even on the schedule of topics - and we saw him code this live. Amazing!! Taught me something I can use on a project I&#039;m working on right now.

Thanks, Eric for taking the time, going over this technique, and impressing us all (even yourself)! ;)

Once again, the seminar was fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, at the Carson Workshop in Chicago, Eric went over this layout technique &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t even on the schedule of topics &#8211; and we saw him code this live. Amazing!! Taught me something I can use on a project I&#8217;m working on right now.</p>
<p>Thanks, Eric for taking the time, going over this technique, and impressing us all (even yourself)! ;)</p>
<p>Once again, the seminar was fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-7981</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, thanks for this article. It helped me convince the Mozilla drivers to fix the regression. As Philippe says, it should be included in the final 1.5 version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, thanks for this article. It helped me convince the Mozilla drivers to fix the regression. As Philippe says, it should be included in the final 1.5 version.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/11/01/layout-revolution/#comment-7969</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is great news: the patch for Bug 312777 has &lt;a href=&quot;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312777#c47&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;landed&lt;/a&gt; on the branch tree! That naughty problem will be &lt;strong&gt;fixed&lt;/strong&gt; for Firefox 1.5 rc2.

Thanks a lot to the Mozilla engineers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is great news: the patch for Bug 312777 has <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312777#c47" rel="nofollow">landed</a> on the branch tree! That naughty problem will be <strong>fixed</strong> for Firefox 1.5 rc2.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot to the Mozilla engineers.</p>
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