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		<title>By: Tobias Pfeiffer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-63942</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias Pfeiffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

I&#039;m running Konqueror 3.5.5 on Kubuntu Linux and neither v1.1 nor v1.2a2 run fine with that. For 1.1 to work, you have to enable &quot;JavaScript Debugging&quot; and &quot;Report JavaScript errors&quot; (Konqueror bug?), or you will only see a white page.
With v1.2a2, you see a long, scrollable page, with the two options from above disabled. If you enable them, you really get errors (at line 601 and 749):
&quot;TypeError: Attempted to access &#039;text&#039; property on undefined object (result of expression jl.options[jl.selectedIndex].text)&quot;
Hope someone can fix this!

bye
tgp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running Konqueror 3.5.5 on Kubuntu Linux and neither v1.1 nor v1.2a2 run fine with that. For 1.1 to work, you have to enable &#8220;JavaScript Debugging&#8221; and &#8220;Report JavaScript errors&#8221; (Konqueror bug?), or you will only see a white page.<br />
With v1.2a2, you see a long, scrollable page, with the two options from above disabled. If you enable them, you really get errors (at line 601 and 749):<br />
&#8220;TypeError: Attempted to access &#8216;text&#8217; property on undefined object (result of expression jl.options[jl.selectedIndex].text)&#8221;<br />
Hope someone can fix this!</p>
<p>bye<br />
tgp.</p>
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		<title>By: Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-14870</link>
		<dc:creator>Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available&lt;/strong&gt;

Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available</strong></p>
<p>Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-14871</link>
		<dc:creator>Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available&lt;/strong&gt;

Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available</strong></p>
<p>Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-14865</link>
		<dc:creator>Davide Bocci in Un Passo al Giorno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available&lt;/strong&gt;

Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>S5 1.2 alpha 1 is now available</strong></p>
<p>Disponibile la nuova versione, in alpha, del sistema di presentazioni on-line basato su XHTML, CSS e Microformati. Una realizzazione Eric Meyer.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EA</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12590</link>
		<dc:creator>EA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly,

window.document.getElementById(&quot;[elementId]&quot;).isDOM = 1;

then,

window.document.getElementById(&quot;[elementId]&quot;).innerHTML = textContent;

Found it on a german website. Good thing javascript is in english. But hey, FF is only trying to be DOM complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly,</p>
<p>window.document.getElementById(&#8220;[elementId]&#8220;).isDOM = 1;</p>
<p>then,</p>
<p>window.document.getElementById(&#8220;[elementId]&#8220;).innerHTML = textContent;</p>
<p>Found it on a german website. Good thing javascript is in english. But hey, FF is only trying to be DOM complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12455</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that this link is sort of an other example that was inspired by this effort. 

http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that this link is sort of an other example that was inspired by this effort. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bell</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12236</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t tried it, but one of the OS X ports of Qemu might work better than a virtual machine in a virtual machine.

http://www.kberg.ch/q/
http://cordney.com/QemuX/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried it, but one of the OS X ports of Qemu might work better than a virtual machine in a virtual machine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kberg.ch/q/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kberg.ch/q/</a><br />
<a href="http://cordney.com/QemuX/" rel="nofollow">http://cordney.com/QemuX/</a></p>
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		<title>By: S5easy</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12196</link>
		<dc:creator>S5easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woring preview of S5 &lt;b&gt;Version 1.2a1&lt;/b&gt;
OSF Version: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.s5easy.com/9/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.s5easy.com/9/&lt;/a&gt;
OXOX Version: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.s5easy.com/22/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.s5easy.com/22/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woring preview of S5 <b>Version 1.2a1</b><br />
OSF Version: <a href="http://www.s5easy.com/9/" rel="nofollow">http://www.s5easy.com/9/</a><br />
OXOX Version: <a href="http://www.s5easy.com/22/" rel="nofollow">http://www.s5easy.com/22/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12136</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that link died for some reason, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that link died for some reason, <a href="https://shipit.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">https://shipit.ubuntu.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12135</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An easier way to access Konq just send yourself some free &lt;a&gt;Ubuntu CDs&lt;/a&gt;, each CD is infact two, with one being normal Install and one Live (shove it in and it boots up into Linux) thingys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An easier way to access Konq just send yourself some free <a>Ubuntu CDs</a>, each CD is infact two, with one being normal Install and one Live (shove it in and it boots up into Linux) thingys.</p>
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		<title>By: Priit Pirita</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12110</link>
		<dc:creator>Priit Pirita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second one seems to be Tiger only, because Panther in my office Mac behaves correctly as I can confirm now...

But, if somebody can confirm this bug on Safari@Tiger: use selectbox to navigate and press for example spacebar right after. What happens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second one seems to be Tiger only, because Panther in my office Mac behaves correctly as I can confirm now&#8230;</p>
<p>But, if somebody can confirm this bug on Safari@Tiger: use selectbox to navigate and press for example spacebar right after. What happens?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Szymanski</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12107</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Szymanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch. Now I&#039;ve gone and done it: posting before checking in more depth. And this is definitely strange.

The first trip to the slide show, nothing works, as I mentioned above. BUT. Do a Back arrow, then Forward again and the show begins to work. In the older version, slides will change with the mouse click. In your newest version, mouse click don&#039;t work in the page, but they do on the &gt;&gt; and </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch. Now I&#8217;ve gone and done it: posting before checking in more depth. And this is definitely strange.</p>
<p>The first trip to the slide show, nothing works, as I mentioned above. BUT. Do a Back arrow, then Forward again and the show begins to work. In the older version, slides will change with the mouse click. In your newest version, mouse click don&#8217;t work in the page, but they do on the &gt;&gt; and</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Szymanski</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12106</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Szymanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,
I have SuSE 10, and yesterday updated to KDE 3.5. I am sorry to report that S5 does not run properly in Konqueror. The XHTML display is one long continuous page, although you can go through the presentation using the space bar control, it does not give you the individual slide look. It&#039;s more like a long roll of paper towels where the sheets have not been torn off, and the eye candy is missing (no styling).

I have used the earlier examples in Windows successfully, and it does work in Firefox on Linux, but Konqueror... sorry.

~Regards,
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
I have SuSE 10, and yesterday updated to KDE 3.5. I am sorry to report that S5 does not run properly in Konqueror. The XHTML display is one long continuous page, although you can go through the presentation using the space bar control, it does not give you the individual slide look. It&#8217;s more like a long roll of paper towels where the sheets have not been torn off, and the eye candy is missing (no styling).</p>
<p>I have used the earlier examples in Windows successfully, and it does work in Firefox on Linux, but Konqueror&#8230; sorry.</p>
<p>~Regards,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Meyer</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12098</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faruk&lt;/a&gt;: I look forward to seeing what you come up with, but if FACE (or other) effects don&#039;t make it into 1.2, there&#039;s always 1.3 or some other future version.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12076&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;: that&#039;s not a bug in S5 so much as just an artifact of how I wrote the CSS for the theme, and it honestly doesn&#039;t bother me.  I don&#039;t think of the 2x2 grid as being important.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12077&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Laurens&lt;/a&gt;: the reported problems might have been post 1.0, or heck, they may not exist.  Anyone have an S5 deck containing SVG or MathML that does run into trouble, so the problems can be analyzed?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12081&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thomas&lt;/a&gt;: done.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12084&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Priit&lt;/a&gt;: I fixed the first bug in my local copy; thanks!  I either don&#039;t understand the second bug you report, or else I don&#039;t suffer from it in my copy of Safari; either way I don&#039;t have a fix for it.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12096&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;: I may or may not be able to get that to work, since I&#039;d have to run KDE on Suse 10 in a VMPlayer running on a Win2K VirtualPC image running on my Mac.  Still, if I get the time, I&#039;ll take a crack at it.  (Although---2.5GB image!?  Crikey!  My poor HD!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12073" rel="nofollow">Faruk</a>: I look forward to seeing what you come up with, but if FACE (or other) effects don&#8217;t make it into 1.2, there&#8217;s always 1.3 or some other future version.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12076" rel="nofollow">Peter</a>: that&#8217;s not a bug in S5 so much as just an artifact of how I wrote the CSS for the theme, and it honestly doesn&#8217;t bother me.  I don&#8217;t think of the 2&#215;2 grid as being important.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12077" rel="nofollow">Laurens</a>: the reported problems might have been post 1.0, or heck, they may not exist.  Anyone have an S5 deck containing SVG or MathML that does run into trouble, so the problems can be analyzed?</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12081" rel="nofollow">Thomas</a>: done.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12084" rel="nofollow">Priit</a>: I fixed the first bug in my local copy; thanks!  I either don&#8217;t understand the second bug you report, or else I don&#8217;t suffer from it in my copy of Safari; either way I don&#8217;t have a fix for it.</p>
<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12096" rel="nofollow">Robert</a>: I may or may not be able to get that to work, since I&#8217;d have to run KDE on Suse 10 in a VMPlayer running on a Win2K VirtualPC image running on my Mac.  Still, if I get the time, I&#8217;ll take a crack at it.  (Although&#8212;2.5GB image!?  Crikey!  My poor HD!)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bell</title>
		<link>http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/01/09/s5-12a1/#comment-12096</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want access to Konquerer (and more), you can run Suse 10 with KDE in a VMware Player virtual machine.

http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
http://developer.kde.org/~binner/vmware/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want access to Konquerer (and more), you can run Suse 10 with KDE in a VMware Player virtual machine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vmware.com/products/player/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vmware.com/products/player/</a><br />
<a href="http://developer.kde.org/~binner/vmware/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.kde.org/~binner/vmware/</a></p>
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