Comments on: Fixed Monospace Sizing http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/ Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it's largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuff Fri, 25 May 2012 11:55:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Alan Briolat http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-497052 Alan Briolat Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:00:03 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-497052 Just for extra entertainment value, an issue I'm sure anybody trying the "table method" for highlighted-code-with-line-numbers has come across, italicised Courier New is taller than regular and bold, meaning the numbers never line up... Unfortunately, most people's monospaced font is Courier New! The only workaround I've found is just to not use italics. (While "semantically" more correct, using a numbered list for the lines gives people "unexplained" # symbols when copy-pasting.) Just for extra entertainment value, an issue I’m sure anybody trying the “table method” for highlighted-code-with-line-numbers has come across, italicised Courier New is taller than regular and bold, meaning the numbers never line up… Unfortunately, most people’s monospaced font is Courier New! The only workaround I’ve found is just to not use italics.

(While “semantically” more correct, using a numbered list for the lines gives people “unexplained” # symbols when copy-pasting.)

]]> By: Meanwhile in Gotham City ← pseudopost.org http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-494707 Meanwhile in Gotham City ← pseudopost.org Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:30:28 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-494707 [...] Shared Eric’s Archived Thoughts: Fixed Monospace Sizing. [...] [...] Shared Eric’s Archived Thoughts: Fixed Monospace Sizing. [...]

]]> By: mysocialbrain: 09-03-2010 : protagonist http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-494340 mysocialbrain: 09-03-2010 : protagonist Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:06:13 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-494340 [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing font amusement Name: Required [...] [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing font amusement Name: Required [...]

]]> By: Bobby Jack http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-493086 Bobby Jack Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:44:58 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-493086 Thanks, Eric - this is excellent info for the obsessives amongst us :) I recently discovered a much more basic (though still relatively annoying) inconsistency in IE7's font-size handling, namely that the default user agent styles appear to be applied in absolute sizes (more here: http://www.fiveminuteargument.com/blog/user-agent-font-sizes). It's staggering that these kinds of issues are not more widely known and understood. Thanks, Eric – this is excellent info for the obsessives amongst us :) I recently discovered a much more basic (though still relatively annoying) inconsistency in IE7′s font-size handling, namely that the default user agent styles appear to be applied in absolute sizes (more here:
http://www.fiveminuteargument.com/blog/user-agent-font-sizes). It’s staggering that these kinds of issues are not more widely known and understood.

]]> By: Links LXXVI • Peter Kröner, Webdesigner & Frontendentwickler http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492769 Links LXXVI • Peter Kröner, Webdesigner & Frontendentwickler Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:08:52 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492769 [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing – Was für ein Zirkus nur um eine Schriftgröße geradezubiegen. Aber hey, immerhin geht [...] [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing – Was für ein Zirkus nur um eine Schriftgröße geradezubiegen. Aber hey, immerhin geht [...]

]]> By: links for 2010-02-16 - ReFactor.it http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492664 links for 2010-02-16 - ReFactor.it Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:02:06 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492664 [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing Monospace text sizing is, from time to time, completely unintuitive and can be quite maddening if you don’t look at it in exactly the right way. Fortunately, there is a pretty simple workaround, and it’s one you might want to consider using even if you weren’t aware that a problem existed. (tags: css typography fonts 2010 safari) [...] [...] Fixed Monospace Sizing Monospace text sizing is, from time to time, completely unintuitive and can be quite maddening if you don’t look at it in exactly the right way. Fortunately, there is a pretty simple workaround, and it’s one you might want to consider using even if you weren’t aware that a problem existed. (tags: css typography fonts 2010 safari) [...]

]]> By: Paul Irish http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492416 Paul Irish Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:29:20 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492416 A chromium developer wrote some great pieces about monospace sizing in webkit.. Some good explanations of this mess: http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/04/monospace-fonts.html http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/09/monospace-fonts-workaround.html A chromium developer wrote some great pieces about monospace sizing in webkit.. Some good explanations of this mess:

http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/04/monospace-fonts.html
http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/09/monospace-fonts-workaround.html

]]> By: jen http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492313 jen Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:10:10 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492313 Eric, I sit here after reading this with my face long, my mouth hanging open, feeling like I've been jostled and shoved so many different ways since Tuesday… I can't imagine all you went through to discover and document all of this, and that it didn't make you want to become anything other than a web designer/developer. Now, please, go play with your kids, kiss your wife. Get the hell off that computer!!! Eric, I sit here after reading this with my face long, my mouth hanging open, feeling like I’ve been jostled and shoved so many different ways since Tuesday… I can’t imagine all you went through to discover and document all of this, and that it didn’t make you want to become anything other than a web designer/developer.

Now, please, go play with your kids, kiss your wife. Get the hell off that computer!!!

]]> By: JulienW http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492312 JulienW Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:01:22 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492312 Is is the same on all platforms ? (ie: Windows/Linux ? I suspect you're using a Mac) Thank you, now I know why my monospaced code doesn't have te same size in IE and other browsers ! Is is the same on all platforms ? (ie: Windows/Linux ? I suspect you’re using a Mac)

Thank you, now I know why my monospaced code doesn’t have te same size in IE and other browsers !

]]> By: Carl Meyer http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492307 Carl Meyer Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:33:14 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492307 Wow. That is a truly impressive piece of detective work, and I'm glad I did not have to do it. Wow. That is a truly impressive piece of detective work, and I’m glad I did not have to do it.

]]> By: etienne taylor http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492306 etienne taylor Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:21:29 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492306 Eric, Part of what I do for the dev team here at Clinical Trial Select is the R&D and within that rubric try and chase down solutions for common web development problems so that coders can, well code. This post, which_must have taken a while to write, is a gem. Thank you. etienne taylor ceo clinical trial select, inc. Eric,

Part of what I do for the dev team here at Clinical Trial Select is the R&D and within that rubric try and chase down solutions for common web development problems so that coders can, well code. This post, which_must have taken a while to write, is a gem.

Thank you.

etienne taylor
ceo
clinical trial select, inc.

]]> By: Chris Casciano http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492305 Chris Casciano Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:52:11 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492305 In 13 or so years of writing HTMl i can't say i've ever had this issue come up, but thanks for the digging and explanation. It makes for a nice clean case study in implementing specs and where browser differences with seeming simple properties comes from. In 13 or so years of writing HTMl i can’t say i’ve ever had this issue come up, but thanks for the digging and explanation. It makes for a nice clean case study in implementing specs and where browser differences with seeming simple properties comes from.

]]> By: David Hucklesby http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492302 David Hucklesby Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:11:15 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492302 Brilliant. Thank you. I had resorted to employing a large font stack with "sans-serif" as the fall-back. Now all I need to do, it seems, is add "monospace" ahead of "sans-serif". Nice. Brilliant. Thank you.
I had resorted to employing a large font stack with “sans-serif” as the fall-back. Now all I need to do, it seems, is add “monospace” ahead of “sans-serif”. Nice.

]]> By: A http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492295 A Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:11:19 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492295 Browsers certainly are fascinating creatures. Browsers certainly are fascinating creatures.

]]> By: Erik Vorhes http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2010/02/12/fixed-monospace-sizing/#comment-492293 Erik Vorhes Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:47:28 +0000 http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/?p=1265#comment-492293 This has been driving me nuts for <em>years</em>. Thanks for figuring this out and for sharing. This has been driving me nuts for years. Thanks for figuring this out and for sharing.

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