Sara and I are guests on the most recent Shop Talk Show, espiode #212, where we talked with Chris and Dave about Design for Real Life, Google Mic Drop, and more. We had a good time with it, and hope you will too.
In a moment of slight coincidence, the episode was released almost exactly a year after my first appearance on Shop Talk (espisode #161), where I covered similar topics. At that point, Sara and I were still researching and tossing ideas for the book back and forth. Now here we are, a year later, with the book out. It’s a little wild to contemplate, honestly. It was a lot of work in a pretty short time frame… but so very much worth it.